I dissagree with the Light being the Bad guys

Okay, but European Jews still aren’t indigenous to the land lmao.

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They’re not all European Jews or descended from them, and some are indigenous to the land lmao.

The indigenous ones had a right be there. The europeans who kicked out the Palestinians, not so much.

The Indigenous Jews are among those targeted by the Palestinians, including being targeted by Hamas (who are as bad as ISIS).

Most Israelis aren’t indigenous. Some who are still serve the colonial state, and are valid targets, just like Druze IDF soldiers who are also indigenous.

That’s islamophobic.

Hamas is also a valid target given they’re a terrorist group that includes war criminals.

“Now comes the part where we throw our heads back and laugh.” (youtube.com)

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“We should there form a portion of a rampart of Europe against Asia, an outpost of civilization as opposed to barbarism”, Theodor Herzl, The Jewish State (among several examples)

Herzl also openly described zionism as being a colonial enterprise in his 1902 letter to Cecil Rhodes, which you can find online

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I was referring to the famous quote attributed to Stalin “A single death is a tragedy - a thousand deaths is a statistic.”

Race is not the only condition for something to meet definition of genocide. Nationality is one for example - as is creed - as is ethnic group - sexual orientation etc.

My point such as it is - elements of both sides want to slaughter the other side - but one side is better armed and supplied than the other - and as such has greater capability to do so.

No, Israel is.

Israel does. So does the Great Satan America.

Couldn’t care less. In this case, I don’t care much about colonizer deaths.

And the same would’ve happened regardless what nation the colonizer scum came from.

You don’t know anything, Asmongold. At most the pflp wants a one-state solution where both Jews and Arabs have equal rights. No one wants to slaughter all Israelis. You should read about Haiti if you care so much about colonizers so much.

Herzl died 47 years before the modern nation of Israel was established and 77 years before Palestine was established, so how does he matter?

Hamas has done violence for intimidation for political gains and against non-combatants. That is the literal definition of terrorism.

Hamas are terrorists, face it.

Just because they’re mostly non-white and/or Muslims doesn’t make them not terrorists. Non-whites and Muslims can be terrorists too.

Weak, woke, whataboutisms.

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He matters because he’s the literal founding father of political Zionism and we were discussing the colonial nature of political Zionism lmao

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Makes sense, though it doesn’t matter as Israelis were a thing before Palestinians were (as I cited when discussing the history of those words).

That’s the broadest possible definition of terrorism yes. Any military does that, especially the Amerikkkan one.

Settlers aren’t really civilians.

Just pointing out your double standards.

It’s the literal definition, not the “broadest” one. Hamas a terrorists, none of your whataboutisms change that. Deal with it.

If that same logic was applied to various Native American peoples, as their nations and tribes were fighting and colonizing each other long before Europeans got there…

I never denied their deeds, I just pointed out your double standards because you are denying deeds.

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No there are definitely people who want to slaughter all opposition - they are probably minority but they are there. And the want is not a capability or a means to do so.

The question I am going to ask is what this political discussion have anything to do with the Light being the Bad guys within the story of WoW? Because most of this would not be wrong for being flagged at this point.

If “terrorism” is a term you want to use then any remotely serious definition of “terrorism” also includes Israel so like lmao

Again I have no idea why you’re hyperfixating on the name, and “Palestinian” being largely a modern identity (I’m not even sure it is, don’t quote me on that) is actually completely irrelevant to the discussion at hand, which is that the region’s natives are being slaughtered, driven off their lands and deprived of their right to self-determination

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As long as you acknowledge it also includes Hamas and Palestine lmao, deal?

Because the names do matter when the situation is “Israel vs Palestine”. And they’re not being deprived of self-determination or targeted in deliberate attempts (collateral damage is not the same as active pogroms).

Nah you just made up that both sides support genocide which is exactly what Asmongold says.

There are multiple definitions. For some it’s only attacking non-combatants.

It applies to Native American fighters who killed white “civilian” settlers who colonized their land. You probably would have pearl clutched about that.

You’re from New Zealand, another colonizer nation.

You support the Fourth Reich USA. You’ve made that clear in the past.