I dissagree with the Light being the Bad guys

I said this because there are many seemingly reliable sources out there reporting that Israel did directly or indirectly support Hamas as a way to undermine Fatah and make sure the two-state solution doesn’t come to pass, but I’m absolutely no expert and will be looking for more info on this, so thanks

Hamas deserves to be wiped off the map. Along with the Iranian government

Anyone who sympathizes with terrorists, I will remind you, that you’re the problem

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Based Micah.

Edit: How on Earth did I upvote the above comment?

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Jews created Israel. Israelis existed long before Palestinians did. Palestinians arrived later and there was disagreement. The two sides tried to reach a compromise and failed. Conflict occurred. They had tenuous peace. Hamas broke that peace. Israel and Palestine are now at war and other Middle Eastern nations are siding with Palestine out of Muslims fighting for Muslims, political gains and/or antisemitism.

That’s the basic idea. Anyone who says otherwise is ignorant or lying.

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You’re an absolute liar. Israelis are Ukrainian/Polish/Russian colonizers.

Absolutely revisionist and ignorant BS lmao

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Gonna report that for falsely editing my response

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I think the WoW equivalent of Israel may be the Alliance, an illegitimate genocidal state justifiably hated by all of its neighbors.

There’s arguably already enough to get this thread locked or memory-holed, so in for penny, in for a pound.

How? Palestine as a modern nation didn’t become a nation until 1988. Israel as a modern nation became so in the 14th May, 1948. Fourty years before Palestine became a nation. The word “Palestine” was created around 500 BCE, long after the nation of Israel had been established (according to records inside and outside Scripture). Israel as a people and nation is recorded before 1000 BCE.

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Ancient Israel is not the modern state of Israel.

It doesn’t matter when the so-called State of Palestine formed by the Israeli collaborators Fatah was created. The Palestinian people had still existed and all evidence shows they are indigenous.

Modern Israel still predates modern Palestine.

The people whose bones you’re talking about weren’t Palestinians. For one, the word “Palestine” didn’t even exist at the time.

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The Palestinians were already living there. Mandatory and Ottoman Palestine still existed. Again the name of the state is irrelevant.

Palestinians are the descendants of the Canaanites.

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The name is relevant. As I said, the word “Palestine” didn’t even exist more than 2600 years ago while the word “Israel” did. And about descent, according to who?

Ottoman Palestine didn’t exist until after Christ.

So both Jews and Palestinians have ancestry from the Caananites according to that. Shoots your claim in the foot that cherry picked the Palestinians.

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The genetic profile of Palestinians has, for the first time, been studied by using human leukocyte antigen (HLA) gene variability and haplotypes. The comparison with other Mediterranean populations by using neighbor-joining dendrograms and correspondence analyses reveal that Palestinians are genetically very close to Jews and other Middle East populations, including Turks (Anatolians), Lebanese, Egyptians, Armenians, and Iranians. Archaeologic and genetic data support that both Jews and Palestinians came from the ancient Canaanites, who extensively mixed with Egyptians, Mesopotamian, and Anatolian peoples in ancient times. Thus, Palestinian-Jewish rivalry is based in cultural and religious, but not in genetic, differences. The relatively close relatedness of both Jews and Palestinians to western Mediterranean populations reflects the continuous circum-Mediterranean cultural and gene flow that have occurred in prehistoric and historic times. This flow overtly contradicts the demic diffusion model of western Mediterranean populations substitution by agriculturalists coming from the Middle East in the Mesolithic-Neolithic transition.

Both Palestinians and the native Jews were descended from the ancient Canaanites native to what we now call Palestine. The modern state of Israel is a colonial power and Zionism is a colonial ideology, as admitted by the literal father of Zionism

Everything else is revisionist BS

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Who the hell cares? One group has lived there for thousands of years. The other are europeans who kicked the former out.

If over a thousand people - especially civilians - are killed in a single day - simply for their heritage, creed, or nationality - that generally fits the definition of a genocide and tragedy. Unless you want to go with Stalin’s views on the matter.

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You clearly care with your pro-Palestinian double standards.

Gonna need some citation for that one. On that note, tell me this; Israel has had nukes for years, so if they actually wanted to purge Palestine, why not use them?

Stalin voted to form Israel. You know nothing. Also Stalin did commit genocides but not the same kind as Hitler did. I hate when people equivocate between the too.

Lmao, first they said 1400 civilians, then they moved it to 1200, and then it turns out a lot of them were police and military lmao. And a bunch were killed by Israel.

And none of the people killed were targeted for their race.

Nuking Gaza would hurt Israel lmfao.

https://mondoweiss.net/2010/09/actually-herzl-was-a-colonialist/

His diary includes the text of a letter Herzl wrote to Cecil Rhodes, shortly after the infamous Briton had colonized the land of the Shona people in Africa – whose land he claimed and renamed Rhodesia. “You are being invited to help make history,” Herzl wrote to Rhodes. “[I]t doesn’t involve Africa, but a piece of Asia Minor; not Englishmen but Jews… How, then, do I happen to turn to you since this is an out-of-the-way matter for you? How indeed? Because it is something colonial… [Y]ou, Mr. Rhodes, are a visionary politician or a practical visionary… I want you to… put the stamp of your authority on the Zionist plan and to make the following declaration to a few people who swear by you: I, Rhodes have examined this plan and found it correct and practi

There’s your source.