I dissagree with the Light being the Bad guys

I think it’s probably not a surprise that I kinda like Mussad.

I mean, I wouldn’t want it for my governments because I prefer liberty and hate the state, but as a story? The Jewish assassin squad is tuff.

Literally the main purpose of Operation Al Aqsa Flood was to feee Palestinian hostages in exchange for Israeli hostages, and the towns attacked were mostly “Nahal” colonial frontier settlements. The “innocent civilians” who died (many of whom we know for sure were killed by Israel) were either intentionally living in such colonial frontier towns, or intentionally raving outside a concentration camp. The whole operation was a prison break. I mourned the rave-goers as much as I mourned the Titanic billionaires.

Iran has every right to arm the resistance. Critical support from me to them.

The Stasi were way better. Plus there’s no liberty in the West. But if you’re an anarchist, great.

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It is totally possible to come to an agreement with your neighbors without committing a massacres on a bunch of kids who listened to music. I will mourn for the civillians and families. I will not mourn for the Hamas leadership or Iran’s theocracy. The entire situation in that region is much more complicated than you are putting it.

There’s no valid agreement between Israel and Palestine. The only valid solution is for palestinians to get their land back. Watch this.

Those rave goers were colonizers outside a concentration camp, and I don’t care about them.

I mourn all the martyrs killed by Israel. And while I wouldn’t want to live in Iran, good on them for fighting against Israeli tyranny.

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And here comes down your entire argument. You know the Iran is bad for evryone who isn’t a male muslim yet you cheer them on.

Teenagers having a good time.

There is. The Jews will stay. They will not “Go back to europe” as your side always paints it. You can either work with that and come to the two state solution like all the diplomacy tried for years or get angry when the resistance comes back to their senses cuz military wise they stand no chance.

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No, it’s good for Palestinians and lebanese regardless of religion.

Grown adults and again don’t care about them.

I don’t have a problem with “the Jews.” Many Jewish people are indigenous to the region. The european colonizers aren’t. There is no resistance group which actually wants to deport all European Israelis. However, I don’t fault Palestinians for feeling this way. If it happened in South Africa, I really wouldn’t care.

White south africans fled to Australia mostly that is how people like Troye Sivan became famous. Funny enough almost 5 Millions of them still live there despite government sanctions.

https://www.state.gov/anniversary-of-october-7th-attack/

you were saying?

Iran itself says otherwise. They will orpress you if you aren’t a Shia.

There are still plenty there. The ones who left fled of their own volition.

What do you want me to look at?

We’re not talking about living in Iran.

It is well documented what the so called resistance did that day. The Hamas leadership keeps moving the hostages from city to city because they know if they die they have nothing to bargain anymore.

We’re talking about them being grown ups vs teens.

“If it doesn’t affect me I don’t care.” literally the west these days-.

For the sake of the debate let it be reminded that :

  1. the development of theocratic liberation movements typically happens at the expense of progressive and Marxist liberation movements (that was notably the case with Hamas in the Gaza strip)
  2. Netanyahu explicitly propped up Hamas in order to hamper the Palestinian Authority and the possibility for a Palestinian state to emerge
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Correct, it is the West. Not me though. I support genocide-victims across the world.

Alright this is pointless. This thread will be locked soon so have fun sorting out the OP.

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This is why I miss the DDR.

Also want to dispel something said earlier.

:man_facepalming:

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Not true. The requirement was to make sacrifices to the emperor. This is not “taxes”, it is offerings to him as a god. Christians weren’t objecting to paying taxes (any more than anyone else was). The were persecuted for not acknowledging him as a god.

An example of how this worked was one time the Jews got in trouble along the same lines “Jews resisted the placing of Caligula’s statue in their Temple and pleaded that their offerings and prayers to Yahweh on his behalf amounted to compliance with his request for worship.”

This isn’t refusing to pay taxes.

As to whether they were relatively lenient for their age depends on who you ask. The Cartheginians wouldn’t think so. The quote “They make a dessert and call it peace” refers to the Romans.

They weren’t as bad as the Mongols (at least not as frequently) but they would have called the burning of Teldrassil “victory”

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Except the ones you happen to disagree with that is

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Lol, as if Israelis are being genocided.

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You said they quote “always” practiced syncretism and I explained how they didn’t.

So the pagans at the time reaped what they’d sown in demonization. At least the Christians weren’t feeding them to lions, flaying them alive or forcing them to kill each other for sport, unlike when things were the other way around.

Hamas certainly did many war crimes that day which were also acts of terrorism.

Telling you pretend the Palestinians didn’t inflict unprovoked atrocities and hide behind whataboutisms.