“No more council” was an interesting thing to say as well. I don’t get it. But will see what happens later on I suppose.
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Dude go outside lol
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The Earthen have dementia and they are shutting down.
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100% sums up DF/TWW
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I do like pineapple on pizza, but thanks for letting us know your preferences
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Its just weird how often he is around in general? Hes some random elf whose only notable thing was betraying dalaran to commit a war crime.
Why he isn’t dead is puzzling every faction even neutral ones should have him exiled or killed on sight.
I just wish the story telling was a lot less lame. Its like they saw people react positively to the dragons story about madness and loss in df and thought. “O they like this. Lets copy paste it a thousand times”
It only worked because it was a random dragon and because it isn’t happen constantly.
That is inherently comedic… imagine one of them shutting down asking you to remind him about his life… but you give im entirely wrong answers and then watch him give a speech naming his neighbor as his loving wife.
The joke writes itself.
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I wonder how much of the current writing is “sensitivity reader” edits.
Perhaps the story was passable before it was repeatedly adjusted for the mythical modern audience(s).
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This is easily the worst writing this expansion, by a country mile. Which is… pleasantly surprising in a way, because it means the rest of it hasn’t been as bad as usual, but jeeze. I get that these people have survivor’s guilt, but maybe getting some counseling would be the right call? Instead of blaming themselves for a terrorist action (rather than, say, the terrorists who committed it, most of whom we’ve already killed at this point anyways) and then doing nothing and effing off, abdicating all responsibility. Half the quest chain is Jaina complaining about the danger of leaving all these artifacts just lying around, and yet that’s apparently their plan going forward. Man up and do your job, Kirin Tor.
And let us help rebuild Dalaran with our professions, damnit, it worked for FFXIV!
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I just wish they had a … well a fun reaction.
Would of enjoyed trying to check rampaging enraged arcmages decimating spider people. Maybe try to talk down khadgar as hes pulling legs off with spells.
Im just sick of everyone blabbering and being unlikable boring cowards 24/7
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im also not sure why there appeared to be a fixation on somehow changing or ‘fixing’ their foundation as mages. They just got rocked by an existential threat that, for all I can tell, didn’t have anything to do with their philosophy or outlook.
the destruction of dalaran wasn’t precipitated by some civil war or some internal conflict, so all this discussion of correcting errors of the past now seems super ham-fisted.
would have liked a ‘let’s regroup, take care of our wounded, and bring the fight to Khaz Algar - which is why we relocated dalaran in the first place that resulted in all our comrades dying’
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Garrosh took the fall for that. They actually added some story explaining why he’s still in the kirin tor if I remember. While Jaina weaponized the Kirin tor fully which goes beyond Aethas involvement and she leaded the efforts agaisn’t the Zandalari capital and killed their king.
Reading the quests my understanding is they said that Dalaran fell twice, maybe it shouldn’t be rebuilt the same.
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That literally is what they are doing but with a new organization. It literally is just legends star wars with Luke making a new jedi order which doesn’t follow 100% what the old jedi order did.
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but the point is them rebuilding the kirin tor, it’s not nearly as laser focused on the threat at hand.
in the dialogue, they’re focusing on their organization, but not the immediate threat to them as living beings. i mean, yes, i can appeciate the obvious (to me) sentiment that these are all ivory tower, absent-minded professor types who are fixating on concepts and abstract things - such as what their organization should be focused on - and they’re not warriors or military strategists.
this is the in-game dialogue concluding the last quest:
i don’t see any mention of them bringing the fight to khaz algar.
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I mean, how can they fight when they have nothing to fight with? Hence why they need to rebuild first and foremost. I don’t want a bunch of wacked out mages with no resources in my fight, they will be more harm than good, especially all the non-archmages. Majority of the mages are adepts at best, drop outs at worst.
Hence why the Jedi order, again I am bringing old lore star wars before disney, were such in shambles during the reign of the empire. Majority of the higher ups died and the rest who escapes…well they weren’t very well learned jedi.
So yeah, they need to rebuild first and help themselves before they can help others.
Don’t worry, we got those abominable evokers to help with the magic front now.
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Yeah, I don’t get it. We can teleport to old Dalaran in Northrend or new Dalaran in Broken Isles and Bronze Dragonflight can change the way events happened. Blizz needs to clean the game up.
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I’m good here.
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but, rebuild what? Dalaran isn’t something where all mages get their magic from.
What resources do mages get from dalaran? that’s where i’m confused.
I definitely get the ‘broken arrow’ concept of securing lost nukes before they get intercepted by unfriendly forces. those resources I get, but that’s just smart housekeeping - don’t want your weapons falling into the hands of the enemy.
I guess my question would be. What was the kirin tor’s plan after they ported Dal to Khaz Algar? Were they going to use all those gnarly artifacts against Xal? Something that I don’t recall them ever doing in any other campaign. What were they going to do upon arriving in khaz algar that they definitively can’t now?
lol do all their conjurations come some some nexus in dalaran? heck, it’s a floating city, so we can’t even say it’s sitting on some thicc ley lines…
it’s just, it doesn’t jive with me. it requires us to have these discussions (in my mind) to help validate the narrative path we’re walking…
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That is what we are going to find out in the future. The next thing these mages decide to build.
They had a lot of magical artifacts locked up in vaults, old text and scrolls. Dimensional prisoners to sponge off on. Beer.
Most likely what they did before in northrend and in legion, become the base of operations for all the worlds power to make plans. It was HQ, with all magical entities, artifacts, knowledge…beer were.
Jives with me 100%. Dalaran was what it is called “Mage tower” in other stories. The Oldest House in the game Control. The Jedi Archives. The Archive inbetween. The wandering library. The black Library.
All concepts of magical places or cities where concentrated power congregates to talk to one another, to store knowledge and weapons, to imprison dark beings. That was Dalaran.
It was the SCP foundation in the sky. HQ for us all to go to, relax, store stuff and go back out to the field.
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but jaina didn’t use any of that - well, maybe some beer? - when she cruised her arcane ship o’ the line into Lordaeron. how are we mage’ing in Draenor so far from our towers of arcane goodness?
i know those items are there, but is it stated those are where magic comes from?
and yeah, having a base of operations makes total sense - but…there were only mages in this quest line. there wasn’t anything more.
If i compare that dialogue at the end of this kirin tor quest to tirion fordring’s at the end of the second battle of light’s hope chapel, to me, it’s night and day. tirion clearly identifies the goal and how he will do it:
- argent dawn and the silver hand will reform to the argent crusade
- they will incorporate the freed death knights
- they will begin an expedition to northrend and kill arthas
narratively, it’s incredibly clear and I know what the future holds - more or less. dangit. i miss how decisive homeboy was
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I noticed that. Getting really tired of the pc/trendy nonsense.
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