Yeah. DK gets a free 20% heal for every killing blow they get, so they’re expected to live a long time. The reason I died on that long pull was just the worst possible overlap happened. She hit 100 energy, teleported, and spawned every type of imp. I was expected to run from the bottom of the hallway to the top, while having the fire and shadow imps, and the boss channeling damage on me, all while she is immune to damage and being healed on top of it. At 12 minutes in the boss had such a high damage buff that her channel was melting me, so that combined with fire and shadow imps destroyed me before I made it halfway up the platform. Had to take a break after that one.
Meanwhile watched an outlaw rogue kill it in 4 minutes. Balanced
Well I hate to say this but you probably shouldn’t try the resto druid challenge if you think you shouldn’t have to do things outside of your basic understanding of your group role. Healers are expected to dps and cc in their challenge.
There isn’t mobs banging on you 100% of the time either.
Death and Decay and Annihilation yes.
It actually is though ? It’s literally about keeping horrors off Velen, managing to drop your stacks of Death and Decay, and managing Kruul’s stack of annihilation so you don’t run out of life before he does.
I mean, I expect my healer to dps and cc in Keys and in raids too.
People have a weird way of playing World of Warcraft where they don’t actually use their class kits for some reason. Imagine if we said “Death Strike ? That’s a tank ability! I will not use it good sir!”.
I mean I agree, but thats how a lot of players think. They want to do the things that they think fall into their role. Any deviation from that is stupid to them. I’ve raided with plenty of healers that never appear at all on the damage meter. I always prided myself when I healed that I would interrupt and do as much damage as possible. But a lot of people don’t do that. “I’m a healer not a dps, dealing damage and interrupting isn’t my job”
We chose to farm sockets for many Pandaria CM runs too. This isn’t really new stuff.
Gems and gold and gasp oh no consumables? We all knew this was coming. There is actually a market out there for these things now! We can farm and make tons of cash, or quite easily pick up JC’ing or whatever and just do it ourselves.
I was skeptical at first of the whole ordeal, but it honestly feels so good when you manage to kick the face in of one of the more difficult towers.
More afraid of Blizzard going insane and super under-tuning the tower now than actually just letting it be. We’ve all been begging for something to do. Farm some old raids, get some transmog, remember old interesting pieces of gear that we have not used or thought about in ages.
I’m sitting in front of MT right now inspecting everyone, and it is genuinely interesting all the different methods/trinkets/sockets people are using to overcome the challenges.
Was I mad wiping a million times to the Discipline challenge? Yes. Furious. Then I got even
Edit: I do think it would be quite nice if mage tower was permanent though. People don’t need time constraints for scaled content. That’s just silly.
There is this thing called balance. The tower can be challenging and balanced at the same time with some work.
The challenges aren’t the same for everyone. Each spec has its own tuning even if the encounter is the same. Some specs are facing outright broken encounters.
Some of the ‘broken encounters’ have been cleared by people using specific gear/enchants/consumables. Blizzard has chosen to hotfix it so that those items are nerfed without fixing the challenges.
Most people don’t want nerfs. They want actual tuning so they have a fair chance at the challenge. If it was just doing the mechanics perfectly, it wouldn’t need nerfing. Instead its healers watching their party get 1-2 shot with no chance of healing or bosses that have way too much health and damage output thanks to a last minute buff that wasn’t tested on PTR.
Torghast isn’t a challenge, it’s literally designed for you to clear it as fast as possible. The only thing that is somewhat of a challenge there is beating your previous clear time.
I stopped after 60 because the stress of trying your damnedest and being a good bear in heroics and other ‘casual’ content just, apparently, isn’t good enough by bliz standards
I beat it yday on my mage. I needed to get old gear with old enchants, watch different ways of defeating it and I also did a macro for fast targeting. If all trials are this hard, I’m not going for the mount.
One of the biggest problems with this version of the mage tower is that I promise you the original team that did the mage tower have nothing to do with this revamp.
This team clearly had no idea what they were doing or how the original was balanced around different powers different classes had at that time.
They just copied and pasted this and arbitrarily scaled your gear lower than what you could of had on day 1 of the original release.
Marketed at casuals, it seemed like they gave a worse reward now because this was going to be at most what the mage tower was at end of legion, not harder than it was on the first day AND you dont have half the tools you used to beat it back then.
I did 3 tank ones back in the day in a mix of normal and heroic ToS gear. Blizz intended the mage tower to get easier as legion went on. If they didnt they would of closed it when Argus came out.
Now sure they were gonna scale us down because its lower level timewalking content. But the scale-down was more of a strip down and we are trying to win a Nascar race with a car sitting on cinderblocks with no engine.
I am fine with super hard content thats not for everyone. But if someoen did this in legion no matter when - this should not be so hard in its timewalking from that they have no shot at it and pro-gamers are doing 100+ wipes on it.
Outside of Fury warrior which is free loot, and a few dps specs, most of the tank and heals ones are absolutely insane.
The people saying thats how it was back the - it wasnt. I know you wanna feel special and this is how you get self esteem trolling on the forums, but anyone who says its not objectively harder than it was in Legion on release is just lying.
The Holy Priest one feels impossible. I want someone to make a “I beat it” thread as a Holy Priest with this snark about “oooh i beat it on impossible so it doesnt need a nerf.” Congrats that you did beat ONE scenario out of 7. Here’s a cookie. Now beat all 7 and get the spellbook mount and then tell me to stop crying…I’d respect you more.
Why do I have to spend all of P1 in the Xylem challenge healing myself when I’m a DPS. Well would you look at that healing, cc, kiting, playing defensively and having utility is part of my spec too, wow.
Being a tank or healer doesn’t mean you only do one thing, understanding your class and being a flexible player is knowing how to use the tools provided to you; which if I’m not mistaken was the original goal of the MT challenges.
