Yeah but we do hear that if you don’t have the skill you shouldnt have the gear as an excuse as to why casuals shouldnt get gearing paths to max level.
But in the same game they log in and just give the gear away.
I agree. I have swapped mains this tier twice because of raid comp/not having fun and being behind sucks.
I’m 50/50 on this.
Mythic plus has a better reward system and is able to be done multiple and better for gearing for 1-15.
However the need to have dom gems AND level them up is cringe and puts you at a disadvantage in mplus.
Running gems like the absorb one is mandatory for higher keys as well which needs to be addressed.
I do think tier tokens being awarded from raid/mplus/ and pvp is a good change.
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Humanbeak why do you lie? You don’t really buy boosts
You really shouldn’t care too much of how others perceive you.
At launch, that’s correct. Tier pieces will only come from raids. However, IIRC, everyone will eventually be able to “craft” them or something. There will be other ways to obtain pieces outside of the raid instance in the future. But not right away.
You do know that mplus isn’t the only boosts you can buy right?
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People who don’t like boosting are either:
- Too poor to buy boosts
- Not good enough to sell boosts
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His warcraft logs lie as well
Isn’t this that preheat dude in his alt? It’s still a good topic.
True. It’s an obvious troll either way.
I don’t think boosting, as it is in the modern game, is healthy for the game.
It erodes incentive to socialize and form more meaningful bonds with others. It erodes incentive to improve play. It erodes incentive to go farther and improve. You know, PLUS ULTRA!
That said though, it has always been present in the game. It’s just that the token makes it far easier to do.
But the token isn’t going any where and I don’t want it to.
I think it is just something we need to live with.
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Worse, It feels like blizzard is now building the game with token/boosting in mind. As in “promoted”.
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It does have that stinky feeling doesn’t it.
I don’t think I would let my child play this game.
And I love WoW.
I was literally thinking that today about my future child along with nieces and nephews. As I was driving to drop a ps 5 off at their house.
Like with all the gold boosting and the game direction I don’t think I will be pushing them to play this game.
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i am truly starting to believe that blizz has been watching these large boost communities…they make lots of real money. blizz is pushing the e sport nonsense so it would make sense that they endorse boosting…don’t be surprised if they roll out a new system in the game: pro boosting teams. they want to cash in on any sort of micro trans. as this thread has proven: instant need for gratification wins.
I know two people who buys AOTC carries every tier - and then proceeds to make stories and all sorts of excuses in the world trying to make it sound like they didn’t pay gold for getting carried.
You don’t down the Heroic final boss on your very first encounter and then expect us to believe that you didn’t get carried.
Not happening.
I feel embarrassed for them every single tier.
OP if you can go tell them to stop lying & that they don’t have to feel ashamed to admit that they bought carries, that’ll be great.
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Trying to hide the carry is worse, but sometimes you’re the person being carried without knowing. When I used to raid in guilds in BFA, we carried people to AOTC “by accident”. They were there every night failing on the same mechanics, but we didn’t care. Everyone got their achievement and it was all fun and games until Mythic prog started.
Mythic raiders aren’t nice people, they’re impatient, maybe if the mythic raid lockout was open it would help, every heroic guild I was in that tried to push mythic ended-up disbanding lol. Guild breaker raids.
Now I rather not deal with any of that, boost once in a while and go back to my solo game in a multiplayer world.
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If you’re buying a carry, then you’re not a player. You’re a payer.
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There’s more to the game than instanced high level group play. I know we’re second (if not third) class citizens, but we’re still playing the game.
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And who are you to determine whether or not a person “plays well”? And how do you make that determination? Just by simple virtue of a person purchasing a boost does not automatically mean they don’t know how to play the game, or play it well. Did you ever stop to consider that maybe they’ve already played every race and every class, and just want a boosted character without having to take the time to go through the entire leveling process for the 900th time?
Or is this just one of those “I had to level the hard way so you do too” arguments?
Oh, nevermind. This is one of those “You have to play the same way I play or you’re playing it wrong” arguments. Gotcha.
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I’ve sold a lot of boosts this patch and also used them myself occasionally. I offer my healing services to groups that do multiple AOTC + key carries a week so sometimes I log on and 15s later I’m getting messaged.
I’ll also hire the same people to run my brand new alts through a +15 so I can have my own +15 key to run instead of having to run through the loops of grinding a key +2 to +15. After that I run my own keys.
A lot of the people that get carried are perfectly capable of doing their own runs. Trying to pug AOTC Sylvanas is a coin flip. You either get groups that get it or you spend hours wasting your time.
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This says it well, you have the fresh people at the bottom and the top boosters and players.
No one wants to play the in-between game. That gray area full of bizzare people who you’re not sure where they came from, but you have to PUG with them most of the time, you might get lucky and join a guild group, or pure random of different difficulty, the guy like me who just wants to learn a +7 for the first time, the guy who is on his 6th alt just wants to get back to running 20+ ASAP, the guy who should be doing normal dungeons…
The middle scares me.