I agree, completely.
So stop bringing it into the friggin spotlight and telling people about it, and there will literally be zero negative backlash about it.
Expecting someone to not purchase a boost and earn something on their own merit isn’t “you’re playing wrong”. It’s “You’re not even playing”. You can’t argue that. The whole point to purchasing a boost is to eliminate the actual effort you would normally put into somthing.
You and I aren’t talking about the same kind of boosts. I’m discussing purchasing a boost through content. Leveling boosts are completely irrelevant to me. If someone wants to pay 60 bucks for a boost, that’s fine. Quite literally couldn’t care less. I am discussing someone purchasing an arena boost for time sensitive awards, or purchasing some kind of boost like someone logging on their account and doing MT for them. Stuff like that.
The OP is also discussing such boosts, hence this comment:
The OP is discussing purchasing someone to carry them through content like purchasing gladiator. Or a pilot. Not store bought boosts. Did you actually read his OP?
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Not everyone who earns their gear joins boosting communities. And not everyone who earns their gear cares how others get it.
Keep in mind, some people care that they earned it themselves with their guild and could care less how others get it, so their guild sells carries to fill the guild bank coffers with the gold they need for next tier of raiding. That’s been a thing since Vanilla.
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Yes, I did, and I understood what they were talking about. Whether a store bought boost or dungeon boost or whatever kind of boost it is, it’s all the same thing in the end: one way or they other you are paying to level your character as quickly and easily as possible while not having to do any real world content. Just dungeons, arenas or whatever. Is it really a big deal how they get to level cap? How does it affect your game play? If somebody wants to level their toon by purchasing dungeon runs, and you prefer to level by questing through zones and following the storyline… what difference does it make? This is what I’m not understanding.
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I disagree with this heavily. There’s no actual at-stake reward for purchasing a level boost. Who cares about leveling? It’s literally irrelevant. If you purchase a boost in which you’re being carried through arena, then you are getting time sensitive rewards aimed at being trophies, and earning prestigious achievements which mean absolute zero. I disagree heavily with this mentality.
Again, level means nothing. The fact you keep trying to say it’s the same thing means we have nothing to discuss. You aren’t in the same ballpark as me. You’re discussing a totally separate topic without giving the other end of the coin proper understanding.
We’ll agree to disagree and move on.
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To actually buy enough boosts to completely gear up your character, get a mythic iLvl item in your vault, get KSM, etc. would be REALLY expensive. It’d be close to $1000.
Most people just buy it for one-and-done kind of deals.
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Sometimes we want to skip so we can finally play the game. Enjoy some random BG’s without being blasted off the planet. Get invited in groups because of our lacking resume that is extremely hard to build in pugs if you don’t have some kind of previous achievement.
Its a player created issue and a player created solution. You need a resume, these guys can sell you resume. What you do with it after is your choice. You can, like someone said in this thread, use it as a fast lane so you can get back on the competitive track. Or just keep grinding casually in your shiney armor, 1 shotting mobs who pester you when you try to herb.
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Dude, I’mma be honest. Nothing you say in any regard means anything to me on this subject. I have never, and will never purchase a boost for anything. Everything I have earned time sensitive on my character? I earned through my own work effort, through networking, through properly learning how to play my class in a given situation.
Nothing you say will make me sit here and think it’s okay.
If they actually cared about being competitive, they would compete. I picked up Rdruid 3 months ago. I hit 60, and in 9 days, hit Rival, and then later hit duelist. Through my own effort, while teaching someone how to play the game. If I can do it in 9 days? Someone can put in the effort.
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In 9 days /played? You hit 2100 rating on a resto druid? What bracket? You pugged? Played with already existing Duelist? Passive carry?
Not in 9 days / played, I mean actual 9 days. Here, look.
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/moon-guard/lirinthia
This is my druid.
If you go to my achievements, you can see I hit 60 on September 28th. I then hit Rival with her on October 9th. I took a break, and then hit duelist 1 month later on November 21st cause a buddy of mine asked to play.
The rival push was with one person, a hunter who had never played before. I’m a 2400 experienced multi-classer, and they asked if I would help them learn the game. So I did. And they earned their first rival with me playing an equally geared druid I was also learning how to play.
I did not play with any already-existing duelists. For my duelist push, I played with a buddy of mine returning to the game, and we did warrior druid 2’s for our duelist for weapon appearances for the T2 weapon appearance.
I had never played druid before. I put in the time to learn it. I understand concepts from previous 2400 exp. I’ve been 2k+ every season since Legion season 1.
Nobody was carried. I am also a duelist in 3’s, which you can also see from that armory link, which I play with other people who are similarly geared as me.
Edit: Also, the reason I say “9 days” is because the first 2-3 days of that was renown catch-up, which doesn’t really do much.
Have no problem with boosters, but with Blizzard selling gold through tokens which is then used for buying boosts.
If you farmed all the gold and spend it on boost - good for you. If you risked buying gold from the third parties - good for you. But if Blizzard allows almost direct conversion of dollars into character power - it’s a problem.
What I am wondering is how does how a person chooses to play the game lessen your overall game experience? If they find an easier way to get the same “trophies” and achievements that you did, does that somehow negate all your hard work? Does it lessen importance of your achievements and trophies?
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fun fact: you can buy accounts that have achieves on amazon
as they should. boosting is cheating.
Again, you and I aren’t going to have this conversation because if you think someone purchasing things which are meant to be prestigious trophies is okay, then we’ll never see eye to eye. At all. Yes, it ruins my experience. Because people should earn that stuff.
In no situation whatsoever will boosting someone for trophies, or worse, purchasing a pilot in my mind be okay. At all. I’m a 31 year old man. If I can put in the time to be good at the game? Other people can too.
If you walk into a bowling alley and see someone win a fancy trophy because they played well, they competed, and they earned it? The response should be “Man, I’d like my own trophy” and then that person should compete in another tournament, because they saw someone win.
Purchasing a trophy on Craig’s List or Ebay or whatever for a couple hundred bucks absolutely cheapens the point behind the sport, or sports in general. It is no different here.
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Ok so you boosted your friend for free.
Listen, someone of your caliber, I have a great business opportunity for you in the boosting communities, you could make MILLIONS (of gold).
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Tell me you didn’t read the OP, without telling me you didn’t read the OP.
I don’t see anything wrong with buying boosts.
I don’t do them anymore because I have way too many mounts anyway.
oops maybe boosts and carries aren’t the same thing.
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I did not boost my friend. Boosting would mean I was in duelist gear or something like that. We both leveled characters, and both earned ranks at the same time. If you wanna argue that I have experience, and therefore, could provide insight at a higher level than the people we were fighting? You can argue that. But it wasn’t a boost. I’m a healer. I do not boost people.
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I’ve bought a few carries over the years. But I would never buy boosts. Those are for parts of the game Blizzard doesn’t want me to play. So who am I to fight them on this?