They’ve lived there for eighteen real life years.
Yes.
Lie less. It’s in the quest text that YOU linked but didn’t read.
Night Elves lived there for 10000 until the Horde invaded.
I am glad you agree that Thrall’s Horde is an invading force in Kalimdor.
I posted what is on Wowhead. Your bellyaching is hard to watch.
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Ok? What is your point?
They want to have first dibs on it.
You implied that all combat happens because the Horde attacks the unwitting Alliance. The Alliance went to ICC with the intent to kill the Horde.
Where does it state they were there to kill Horde?
It just states they wanted to get there before the Horde did.
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Pheandra, you ignore entire paragraphs if it doesn’t support your argument, as if that somehow makes them not exist. The point of taking the gate is to hold it against the Horde and stop the Horde from entering Icecrown Citadel, by killing them at the gate.
What paragraph have I ignored? Link it here.
I have not found a single reference of what you state here.
Thats… thats what I linked to you…
Where is this?
Nowhere does anything you said is found on the quest that I linked to you and now you are linking back to me.
We went to such great pains to keep this attack secret. How could the Horde have known? The resources… the men… all lost? Inconceivable!
Our plans here in Icecrown hinged upon our taking that gate before the Horde could. We must recover quickly and prepare to mount another offensive.
Visit the battlefield and search for any survivors. See if there’s anything to be learned from this tragedy.
And prepare yourself, <name>, for a war - on two fronts…
Another offensive upon the icecrown gate. Did you read the quest at all?
Because the Horde backstabbed the Alliance in the middle of its assault on the gate as stated on Wowhead. Dude I don’t think you are reading these quests.
No backstabbery here. All intended war. Which is my point. You ignore all context.
Thank you for not being a blue poster making this thread.
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Lol you ignore context.
What are you even talking about?
Wowhead is clear about the Horde soldiers attacking the Alliance while they were fighting the scourge.
By attacking the Alliance they are now at war with the Horde and they have to watch out for two fronts.
You are fabricating lore as you go to defend the Horde and misrepresent them when Blizzard has been clear in its depiction of the Horde.
BTW… You want context? Here it is. Again.
Here are the Horde dialogues:
Gathering… information… on the Scourge.
Alliance forces appeared…
We took cover - waited until they attacked the gate,
then, we hit them from the rear.
Pinched between us… and the Scourge… it was too much for them…
*
<After a brief pause, Korm bursts into laughter.>
THAT is what it means to be HORDE!
Were it not for them, the Alliance maggots would likely be holding that gate!
Their boldness has bought us precious time.
Here are the Alliance Dialogues
We attacked under cover of a blizzard…
The Scourge were caught off guard… our victory was certain…
Then… from behind us… the Horde came from nowhere.
They cost us… everything…
So… It was a rout - a total loss. This shall not be forgotten.
Mark my words, <class>. The Horde shall pay for this… there will be no mercy!
This is context you didn’t link. And the context you’re still missing, is that these are Garrosh’s troops.
Yes I did. You can scroll up and see it.
Horde is Horde. This was while Thrall was Warchief.
Besides Garrosh wasn’t leading these specific troops personally.
Clearly you are not reading anything here and purely speculating to push your own ideas as facts.
The Horde attacked the Alliance while they were assaulting Icecrown’s gate.
So not only did the Horde attack at Wrathgate but also at Icecrown.
I linked it too. It’s not on there.
Pheandra: Has never played Horde.
Me: Don’t incorrectly tell me Horde politics.
Garrosh acted outside of Thrall’s orders god knows how many times.
You never linked it. I linked it twice.
The first time I did was post 60.
You are lying here. Very easily demonstrable lies.
You didn’t even know this quest chain existed until I showed it to you and you have been back peddling it since.
Based on the quests described in wowhead on both the Horde and Alliance side.
The Horde attacked the Alliance in the middle of an assault on the Icecrown gate.
Not only they attacked them.
They attacked them from the back.
This was done during Wotlk when Thrall was still warchief.
These are the facts and anyone who cares for the facts can check them by reading the post I linked.
I am done with this conversation Treng. Next time do your research before making up your own lore.
Thanks.
Go home, Pheandra.