Tbh still closest to enhancement just also with racial twist.
I don’t see anything that has to do with hunter or rogue.
Tbh still closest to enhancement just also with racial twist.
I don’t see anything that has to do with hunter or rogue.
Nor did I claim as much. You did, however, say it should be a Hunter Hero Spec. That would require that it belongs on Hunter (i.e., has tighter affinity with and more to leverage within Hunter than with[in] any other class).
It does not.
So do Troll Enhancement shaman.
Not a thing outside of Private servers. If you want a hybrid, play there, or ask for Classic Reborn.
No, I’m saying they’re shaman because they call themselves shaman, have exclusively racial baseline and shamanistic powers, and earn their titles through shamanistic rites.
Never said they were. But being a Darkspear troll is also the only reason Darkspear Trolls’ respected shaman (“shamans” if you prefer) have proficiency with glaive-spears and dark magics. Because they are part of the Dark… spear… tribe.
If you take someone who went through a near-identical rite among the Skyhorn Tribe, they’d be proficient with heavy spears and bows, because that’s the martial tradition and expected training of anyone from the Skyhorn tribe. Just as if you took a Paladin who grew up in Westfall, they’d know their way around a pitchfork, no part of which would make a pitchfork a “Paladin” weapon, nor necessarily theme some Sherriff hero class therefrom around said pitchfork.
No, by my logic as repeatedly stated, he’d be a paladin if
Such is the relationship between Shadow Hunters and shaman(s).
And serpent wards, which is specifically shaman.
And all shamans have access to this, not just trolls. The only thing from SH thats troll specific is the ultimate, which is fine, since originally we did have for example priests get plenty of diff abilities based on race.
LMFAO just because they have the word hunter in their name doesn’t mean they’re bow-wielding pew pew pet class.
Let’s see, serpent ward, chain heal, big bad VOODOO…
It’s pretty shamanistic to the brim in Troll form. C‘mon dude, do better.
Also, Shamans in WoW are pretty much an amalgamation of Shamans, Witchdoctors, Spirit Walkers, Farseers and Shadowhunters.
Are we done here?
Those two are the closes classes to a SH that what my point was. Hunters are not comparable to Shadow Hunters, and would fit better as Shaman Hero class.
However, it is used by all three, which brings back to their similarities.
When you think of Glaives what class comes to mind first or even character?
Hunter/Huntress, if only because that was the first user (type). Then Illidan (character). Then Spellbreakers (type). Then Rokhan (character). Then finally demon hunters (type).
If we’re agreeing on this, why any of this consideration as to whether they are Priest/Rogue/DH/etc hybrids? I could see the point if there were a cross-class capable Timerunning shtick coming up before 12.0, but…
are you all joke? im telling to you forget warcraft 3 . shadow hunter is not w3 unit anymore
Not sure what you are talking about bm is strong at moment.
Why ?
And what abilities are they using in wow ?
So shadow hunters have clear mechanical similarities to shamans (chain heal, hex, n serpent wards), they have some similary to priest (swp)
“agile fighter” like enhancement shaman ? last i checked they’re considered agile
“fighter plus magic abilities” also like enhancement shaman ?
You’ve shown nothing for the DH/Rogue/Hunter connection.
No, because it’s still part of lore.
i know u are
I’m still trying to determine if he’s a troll, joke or a clown.
I was gonna say the huntress unit. Especially since their upgrade was bouncing glaives which was incredibly OP in the original WC3 pre expansion.
It was the first time glaives were distinct from other thrown weapons (via that ricochet), aye.
Because shadow hunter is not that anymore? why you all acting like a stubborn dumb?
you just know warcraft 3. you are defending your idea because you dont know anything about troll culture. or you didnt any quest at echo isles or heritage. or you didnt watch them carefully. or you know nothing about shadow hunter tradition. for you all shadow hunter is just a w3 unit with hex+healing wave+serpent totem+bbw.
shadow hunter spells baked to shaman for wow. thats because shaman is horde(orc+tauren+troll) centric class. without that spells shadow hunter have almost zero similiarity with shaman.
shadow hunters are evolved. changed their style every xpac. why you dont understand this?
there is siame-quashi - atal-mhuto . there is vol’jin . there is Rokhan. there are another tribes shadow hunters.
there are some of their abilities;
htt ps://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Shadow_Hunter_Rala
htt ps://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Shadow_Hunter_Vol%27tris
htt ps://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Smolderthorn_Shadow_Hunter
htt ps://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Gurubashi_Shadow_Hunter
htt ps://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Rokhan
just please stop saying shadow hunter=shaman
you are real troll mon!
i shown more than ten abilities and five characthers but you still crying like a baby for just few things.
almost 30 abilities nothing similiar to shaman you are ignoring and saying its shaman for 3 abilities.
what a clown you are !
What on earth have y’all been arguing about
All these abilities are just showing that SH are already integrated into other specs. To bring SH as an actual class would require reworking other specs and removing abilities to create them.
You named abilities from Shamans, Rogues, Hunters, and Priests.
It’s same as Death knights are combination of Runemaster and Necromancer. To separate SH from four classes would be a large hill to climb over.
The Hunter forum truly has quite the cavalcade of posters
someone told dark ranger need its own class. and i added shadow hunter too.
some of crazy people started to shadow hunter is shaman spec.
and im trying to tell them shadow hunter is not shaman its more than shaman.