I’ve beaten all 36 Mage towers

It won’t. Blizzard will nerf the hell out of mage tower and everyone will be sitting around in town on their druid alts in that form so they can look ‘special’ by looking exactly like everyone else.

Same as the original furbolg mage tower form. We used to joke at the time that you could easily spots guardian druid alts (and FOTM rerollers) by their use of the furbolg form that everyone else had. Actual long-time bear tanks used, ya know, bear forms.

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You are extremely dellusional.
Some of us have farmed things for the entirety of the expansion and not had it drop.
RNG is terrible.
Example, Shard from DoS trinket (Bear) - Never dropped for me.
I boost people in M+, so I regularly run these things and always have 3 M+ options for vault.
I’ve gotten every single other trinket that is NOT good, many times three or one up to 5 times by now.

RNG matters, and it makes the game terrible.
You are just sitting there, rotating on your pedestal, while talking against facts…
You even say leveling a profession has never costed you 100k… … . .
Ok so you are either ignorant, or new, or trolling.
Or dumb.

Its not “RPG” stuff. Its literally grinding RNG.
Invincible took me 5 years to get, ran it on 28 characters.
Have fun sitting on your stick.

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I hope they do. I don’t care about looking special. I just want the form because it looks cool.

If you want to know if someone got it the hard way, there are achievement dates.

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Well achievement dates show the OP is lying because he didn’t do mage tower until a year after it came out, so… :thinking:

What do good players get then?

I actually saw multiple DH’s and outlaw rogues do it pre-60. Only saw one fury standing outside.

A recolor of that same form. That would be a way that good players can easily be recognized. Best part is, if you see that green skinned werebear next to that blue skinned werebear, then you’ll know which player is better. Because every player who is that good would always show the green recolor so everyone knows how leet they are, of course. That’s what those types of players care about after all. And if that’s still not satisfying enough and you want to know if that blue skin is really just a blue skin, achievement inspection is a thing.

Let the casuals run around as a werebear and let them enjoy their awesome form and animations.

At the end of the day, the majority of the less skilled playerbase pays the bills for this company. This game isn’t a charity to make elites feel good about themselves all the time.

This game isn’t a charity to give the best looking models to the worst players either

It’s not charity for us since we pay the bills. The best players don’t.

We will just keep moving on to other games and MMOs that actually listen to the majority of its playerbase.

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What are you huffing? Good players don’t pay subs? What

Go play other mmo’s then, it’s literally awful game design for ANY game to reward bad players with exclusive content that requires any sort of skills

Hate to say it but you’re right.

And wow if it continues this way it will go the route of wildstar.

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No…He’s saying casuals are what keep WoW alive. The top 1% do not.

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Since you are so obviously skilled at this game, I assumed that you’d be intelligent enough to comprehend what I wrote. “best players don’t” means your share of the cost is pitifully tiny in comparison to the majority.

Werebear form shouldn’t be exclusive content. That limits creative expression in an RPG. Exclusive recolors is a middle ground that almost everyone complaining right now would agree with I think. Except for a vocal minority that you are a part of.

Yeah you’re right. The worst of the worst bear druids should be able to access a form which was challenging content which only a decent number of players that players in legion got.

In the words of Garrosh “times change”

Your definition of “worst of the worst” and mine are likely very different.

I’m not saying to just give everyone the form automatically.

I think of the Nocturne of Heroes event in FF14. Each fight stood out in its own way and the last 2 solo fights were definitely not freebies. Especially the final fight with the FF15 version of Garuda. After doing that fight you can purchase the Regalia mount.

That fight was challenging for me but after a couple of hours and some reading online, it was doable after several tries. It was still very satisfying and a memory that is still with me today.

That’s the kind of difficulty I’d like to see for something like the Werebear form. I’m just not as sweaty as I used to be in my teens and early 20s to do something 100+ times before all the mechanics, phases, enemies, rotation, new talent choices, etc click for me.

It’s my belief that even low-skilled players should be allowed to have fun in an RPG, and really cool stuff like new forms shouldn’t be exclusive to the best players. They will just lord them over everyone else and make them feel sad and inferior since there’s no other way to obtain that form. The same can’t be said for recolors, since the base armor is obtainable in alternative ways.

Which is exactly why they are tuning the fights.

Far as I know it is.

So you’re telling me that a “challenge” is farming a bunch of random old gear just to be able to beat something in which you’ve done nothing differently in?

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This is exactly right. Nothing else needs to be said about it.

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Learn ?. That meant something back in Wrath or BC, maybe… but now ? each expansion, nvm each patch, brings a new system, that over writes the progress you made before.

I did 2 of the challenges back in Legion, and they were by far easier than now. hard challenging content ? to please like de 0.5% of the game population…