dont put words into peoples mouths
people want the power to be EVEN, not one class steam rolling everyone
Hunters have one good option and it isn’t even strictly the best one in either PVP or PVE (PVE especially is turning hard into “stack warrior and rogue” again).
The pet has tons of counterplay, and it’s not like it has huge, absurd burst power after they fixed kill command.
And even if they do destroy scorpid, I promise you the whiners will come for wind serpents next (“OMG why can a hunter’s pet kill me from so far away!?!?!”).
Yes unfortunately. Wind serpents are gifted with rank 3 lightning breath this phase so I’ve seen ppl say it’s busted (it’s not). Next phase will still be rank 3 and nobody will care anymore.
I’m having a lot of fun with scorpid and eye of the beast while it lasts though.
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Hunter Pets are Raid bosses that do more total damage than other classes. Their pets also have stronger Dots then Dot Classes.
Yup and it’s bad design. Would be cool if it was deeper than that and Pets offered Utility/Buffs to the Hunter/Raid. Pets have always had terrible design in this game which ruins gameplay.
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It isn’t that busted depend on the gear really, my twink has 126 agi with AoL and my Scorpio does 59 DMG per tick another regular hunter level 19 would do around 30 to 37 and a LVL 11 17 all rank 1 ability but different stats
Why would hunters even want to defend a bug that makes their one pet over tuned thus making their spec competitive? Advocate for the bug being fixed so that it becomes apparent whether or not the remainder of the spec (or any other pet) would actually need to be buffed to level out their power without needing a bug to provide it. With the way it is now, it’s a gimmick.
You do realize that is more than Dot classes tick dmg at level 25 right with decent gear. It’s super busted. It should do 8 dmg at 19 level.
8 damage at 19 did you go bonkers or something claw does like 20 no cd and cost 25 focus and poison is 4 sec cd 40 focus it may be bad scalling or whatever I’ll give you that but what you propose doesn’t make sense.
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No. Pets shouldn’t have busted Dots and 8 dmg tick is enough.
Level 25 Pre-Raid Bis Aff Locks wish their Dots did 59 dmg per tick. It’s just ridiculous people are defending Pet damage. When it’s doing 4-5 times too much dmg.
Pets shouldn’t do more damage than other Classes and outshine them in everyway. Pets really shouldn’t do much damage at all and be about utility and buffs for the Hunter/Party.
It’s not a bug, it’s poor tuning.
And we can and have experimented with other specs and pets, nothing except maybe wind serpents even comes close to the level of performance that you can get out of Scorpids, which are also basically the only thing keeping Hunter above water right now.
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If they could fix the other runes I’d be glad to run Lone wolf or something but right now only BM is viable and a warlock as like 4 debuff bad comparison and like I said might need some more tunning but not nerfed into the ground
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The problem is Pets have never been in a good spot or had good design at any point in WoW for any Class. They create this Autobattler situation, often are just OP and obviously unfun to deal with in terms of gameplay.
I don’t think a Pet should ever do more than 10% of the Classes damage or have a range beyond 40 yards. We just have never seen a healthy iteration of Pets in WoW. This is why they are hated.
Pet design could be a lot deeper. They could offer far more Utility/Buffs. Obviously in this version of the game we aren’t going to finally get Pet design right. We could write a whole thread on how to do that. In the meantime they shouldn’t be damage bots that Tank.
If Blizzard doesn’t touch any of the other runes then just straight up nerfing BM dooms them to be a class that has nothing but crappy runes across the board. I don’t think many hunters will be happy with that. Not that you care.
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Tale as old as wow. Hunters do good and the tears come in, doesn’t matter what it is. If it isn’t the pets it is that the hunter can kite them so they cry for gap closure then laugh their rears off when they stood in the hunter dead zone trolling them. While the scorpid is op at the moment what exactly do hunters have otherwise? You not remember who rogues made popluar by world of roguecraft cried so the flare was nerfed, trap radius was nerfed, etc…
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It’s design problems. Hunter and Lock are the 2 toughest Classes to design and balance which also no coincidence the 2 Pet Classes.
I made a Hunter cause I wanted to control a Raid boss. I did say how we should change Pets. With that said more will keep making Hunters till there is an overpopulation of them to abuse the broken power until it’s then fixed.
Ive mained a hunter since actual vanilla. I do think the posion isnt working properly, it is giving all scaling benefit at 1 stack. It should be giving 1/5 the scaling at one stack. Which isnt how it works currenty.
However this is currently the only good aspect of hunter for sod. All the runes and talents that dont specifically support the pet feel underwealming, undertuned, or just plain boring.
The only fix the posion needs is its scaling to be cut to 1/5 and let it stack up its scaling to what it currently is at 5 stacks. Thats it. But hunters definitely need their runes overall looked at.
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Are you suggesting that you take all of the pet’s damage and give it to the hunter to do from range? Goodness, I would love that. Ultimate clothy destruction from 36-41 yards.
The loser was going on about being a “top geared warrior” getting clapped by a hunter in greens. Gear =/= Skill.
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No not at all. There is more to this game then damage.
Not for hunters. They are the only pure dps class.
Furthermore, all hunters have is there damage against casters for the most part. They don’t get real spell interrupts. There is no viper sting right now, and even when there is it doesn’t scale.