Hunters specifically beastmaster


There’s no reason for ad hominem attacks. I didn’t say anything in reply to:


OK. If that’s what you think, that’s fine. The 75% of your hunter friend’s damage that is done by his pet will not increase at all for this entire level 25 phase. That means that only the remaining 25% of his damage output may become better with gear, while 100% of your warrior damage may become better with gear at level 25.

Anyway, I just wanted to clarify that point, even though we clearly aren’t having a friendly conversation about things, and don’t seem to be on the same page at all. I hope you have a great rest of your day/night/weekend, and may your wish that the just remove Scorpids from the game, or make hunters however much worse in whatever parts of the game you’d like comes true.

:slight_smile:

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More specifically, they disabled the RAP to spellpower scaling. After the fix, scorpid poison did 3-4 dmg per tick per stack (instead of 60-70 for stack 1) which is exactly what you would expect from the rank 1 ability with only multipliers and no scaling.
Because this “fix” also affected lightning breath which doesn’t scale ridiculously with spellpower, they reverted it after roughly 4 hours.

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Oh, is that right? Thanks for letting me know.

I really wish there were blue posts to link to for this sort of info, or a changelog so we could at least see that for ourselves.

If hunter pets scale in SoD, then that’s great!

Yeha it’s all on twitter unfortunately.

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On average Hunters are doing more than warriors in the raid still though.

A pet which takes no skill to operate should not do 70% of your damage…period.

I can live with the busted tanking aspects of the pet but please do not try to justify skillless dps obtained just because you have the right talents.

I play rogue and have played hunter in the past and i am new to sod mind frame and playstyle. I tried several specs considered best. In the end i realized my numbers don’t come close to the hype if I’m playing it wrong.

Its night and day even with best talents. In some attempts while i was learning almost a 200% difference between adjustments in rotation between my best and worst attempts at finding a rotation.

You should not avoid that almost all that nonsense and get away from having to deal with fewer accuracy shenigans simply because you have invested talent points and can ride an AI to figurative stardom.

Last BFD hunter pet did 70% of their damage. That pet did more than 40% of the raid which are parsing as expected. How is it even close to fair to ride the coattails of a stat monster with a script and justify talent points when others are busting their balls.

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This is actually not true either. There are items specifically to increase pet damage.

Yeah, that was pointed out later:

which negates my previous opinions :slight_smile:

Someone else pointed out that hunter pets have too much health. The weakness of a hunter is that if you kill their pet, they lose a lot of power. They won’t last long. Another thing people forget is that hunters have always been strong in low level pvp.

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Gear =/= Skill

Gear =/= Skill

We are talking about a hunter’s pet being broken, a pet taking less skill than anything, and doing all their damage and blizzard themselves have said its broken and needs to be fixed.

Try to even keep up with the convo mon.

This is just misinformation. The Scorpid poison is not doing that much damage since the bug fix. And it can only be applied 5 stacks per target. Meaning, if you have 7 scorpids on one person, they can still collectively all only put one set of 5 stacks on a mob.

Looking at my own logs, the scorpid which I ran in last BFD did 75 DPS of my 145 against Aku’mai. I had no world buffs or consumes. It’s a lot, but it’s not 75% and I have beastmaster runes plus 20% from talents. The poison alone accounted for 45.9 DPS.

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This is just misinformation. The Scorpid poison is not doing that much damage since the bug fix.

You’re misinformation. They undid half the bug fix because it caused other problems and are working on a new fix I assume will drop Tuesday during server reset.

Scorpids poison is still totally busted. From my details! addon yesterday 1v1ing a hunter; 73.2% of the Hunter’s total dmg was from the pet; 70% of the Pet’s Dmg was scorpid poison.

It is still absolutely busted and deals a ridiculous amount of damage.

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Other classes are doing more damage, why don’t you get mad at them? It’s because it’s coming from a pet.

Hunters would be glad to do good damage from MM or Survival, but we don’t have worthwhile any runes to help us with that. So we’re all running BM. The second they nerf BM we are era hunters with zero buffs at all. I guess that’s the only way to make the whiners happy. The idea that Blizzard should be balancing around 1v1 duels is laughable, by the way.

If his damage was 73% Scorpid then he wasn’t hitting you from ranged very much.
I’ve run hundreds of BGs and my pet only does about half my damage, sometimes less because good players tend to focus it and kill it/cc it.

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They changed kill command so it doesn’t work with scorp poison anymore.
When they removed spellpower from pets it did 4 dmg per tick on stack 1. It’s a lvl 8 ability, we currently don’t have access to rank 2. That fix was reverted because it gutted the ability completely and nerfed lightning breath aswell.

My scorp does approx 80 dmg per tick on stack 1 which is 2000% of base damage. Whether you think it’s balanced or not at current level (not my debate) you can’t deny that there is an issue with the spellpower to damage conversion on this specific ability.

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so you think a scorpid pet that you can send off on its own to solo a player or two in bg is fair and balanced? am i getting this right?
haha
ok buddy

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if the pet is soloing you… the issue isnt the pet

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you are right.
its the pet poison.

So what are you proposing? That You should be able to just ignore the hunter’s pet, which they invested at least one rune slot and all their talent points into buffing?

This would be like arguing that it’s unfair for a warrior to charge you down and mortal strike you, that it does too much damage, and they shouldn’t be allowed to do that.

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I wonder if anyone is doing a damage calculation on how much AotL is buffing their team mates.