Hunters in my guild want to get ashkandi

Hahah yeah I kind of agree. Like I’ll take it if I can get it, but if I can get another weapon that’s similar, that’s great too and I’ll never look back.

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I dont know about slam. I mean you mess it up by 0.5 sec and you just cucked yourself from a white hit. I would def. argue that in a max pve dps perspectice on alliance, slam is just not worth it.

And tbh did you try it out yourself? Got to be the most annoying spec to actually use in a raid, keeping your eyes on the WST and losing considerable mobility.

1000% in agreement with this.

I mean a sword as big as the undead model? Lets go!

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Warriors who are raid dps spec should be fury with 2 1hers. Ashkhandi is like hand of rag, it’s not bis for anyone. Doesn’t matter though, let dkp decide who gets it.

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you can say literally the same thing about hunters, but what I don’t get is this: I get making fun of ret’s low dps, i get making fun of druid dps being low, but those classes don’t have a choice, a paladin can either be a bad warrior or heal, a druid can tank, heal, or be a bad rogue, or a bad mage, warriors ARE the top damage class in the game right now, being a dps warrior and CHOOSING to be the lower dps version is silly in my opinion, why cry about askhandi when you can farm UBRS for a blue MH/OH and outdps it?

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Here’s the fundamental difference though. With Ashkandi:

Hunters use this:
+33 Stamina
Equip: +86 Attack Power.

Warriors use this:
229 - 344 Damage, 3.50 speed
+33 Stamina
Equip: +86 Attack Power.

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You can say that about hunters, except they dont matter from a progression standpoint. Warriors do.

You could probably even make the argument that once nexus crystals are in the game, it’s better to shard all hunter gear and use the money for raid consumeables than to actually gear your hunters.

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One reason you could start with is that not all of us are humans with free edgemasters. Also at this point in the game, 2h fury and dw fury are similar.

As gear progresses dw fury will overtake 2h, but we’re not at a point yet where the difference is so great that 2h fury horde is considered a gimped build, the same way it might be when naxx geared.

Major exception right now would be if you have R14 weapons, then obviously dw is far better.

The truly pro hunters take healing weps to swap to for those mend pet situations.

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totally, if a hunter isn’t rocking mageblade on a pet mend weapon swap macro - they’re doing it wrong.

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not the 2h fury ones they don’t.

you say we’re not there yet, but my raid often has 3-4 dw fury warriors, all using either an ony blade or any other MC mh, and either a blue or a dagger offhand, and we have the 1 fury 2h warrior with the rag sword, the 2h fury is NEVER among the other warriors and rogues.

You’re alliance, I agree with you. It’s completely different than horde 2h fury.

because of what? orc racials?

Windfury is god. To clarify, everything I’ve been saying about 2h fury pretty much only applies to horde because of windfury.

There is stupid stuff you can do because of the massive amount of rage generation. In between BT and WW you spam hamstring to fish for WF procs and flurry procs (hamstring crits) and constantly heroic strike if your rage stays high, etc. It’s really stupid.

Windfury is the primary reason I went horde for classic. It’s too fun on a warrior.

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Human / orc racials only matter from a hit cap / glancing blow perspective, allowing you to focus more on crit / +ap. Edgemasters is required for dw wars that arent the above.

Yeah that’s part of it. OEB or BRE are higher dps on horde unless you have weapon skill from orc racial or edgemasters.

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Its actually borderline dangerous since we dont get blessings, gotta watch that threat or RIP on Vael

They arent 2h fury in raid they de fury. You give them the 2h Melee weapons for PVP. Because that’s still more important than a stat stick on a hunter.

Standard operating procedure is that Hunters get melee weapons from the previous content tier. Right now, you give them dungeon blues/Lok. Once BWL opens, you start giving them MC melee weapons.

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Yeah that’s one downside, the damage can be really spikey.

Just have to keep an eye on the threat meter.