Hunters in my guild want to get ashkandi

Ya I am horde I know about the delicious WF haha :slight_smile:

We are starting to go in circles here, if we look up in a month and the bwl parses are dominated by hunters weaving with Ashkandi Iā€™d change itā€™s prio. As it is Iā€™m sticking with PvP war > try hard hunter > PvP hunter > roll

I donā€™t believe it will be enough of a difference maker for hunter parses For most hunters to prio it to them over warriors.

https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/reports/8krBtqwLYRA9TpMZ#fight=32&type=damage-done&source=27

https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/reports/674b9NHQwXLBm2th#fight=12&type=damage-done&source=15

Exhibit A

https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/reports/mYLGqFA7JyfBdhDc#fight=23&type=damage-done&source=32 Ebonroc top parse for hunters.

Itā€™s a good PvP item. And unfortunately, itā€™s probably better for hunters. If loot council, give it to the player who is more into PvP, not the class. In pve we run one arms warrior and he has hand of rag so in our guild I do believe hunters are getting prio.

Dude what are you linking? Something thatā€™s viable ? Or something that is BIS? Some random golemag parse where 3 percent of his damage is from melee and the parse isnā€™t even the top is your justification of hunter prio?

Typical, you pick the lowest dps to comment on and you lie.

Its a 99% parse lol and its 72dps from raptor alone, Just under 8% of total damage.

The 2nd is mag 95dps, 11.5% total.

The last is Ebonroc and is the 1 Parse for hunters. 86dps from raptor and 12% of total damage. With barbarous blade.

This is just shy of the hunters pet total damage output. If a hunter could double his pets damage he would, why wouldnā€™t he double his melee damage if it does just as much as his pets?

So therefore it is raid BiS for hunters in BWL. Prio hunters whom weave.

Whatā€™s their spec for that, and are they giving up pet damage to spec into RS crit lol. What you linked arenā€™t top parses dude and outliers certainly donā€™t indicate any sort of 10 percent better bullhit. If it did it would be all top parses.

I donā€™t get what you donā€™t understand, they are top parsing hunters melee weaving, the Ebonroc one is The top parse. You are just choosing to ignore the facts. Both those hunters I linked consistently get high 90s parses weaving.

Honestly just admit it, you are stuck in a mindset and canā€™t see through the trees. Your justifications have crumbled and your pathetically clinging on dribbling crap.

What you donā€™t understand is what their dps would have been without it. Jesus your a crap hunter talking about a spec you arenā€™t capable of calling bis as you analyze logs in a nonsensical manner.

do dps warriors play arms in raids?

if its #1 parse then it clearly is better then or at least equal to other full ranged play style.

That raid hasnā€™t even been out a week. Do you remember the number one parses from week one of MC? Of course not.

I am not saying it might not stay there, but you have two phases of MC data to pull from, clearly it has enough entries. The fact that MC logs arenā€™t dominated by weaving shows that:

  1. The spec doesnā€™t have the itemization to be viable yet or
  2. The spec isnā€™t the 10% increase ppl keep parroting

Iā€™d say in the real world with on point play you could expect maybe 5-10% increase due to clipping auto shot. When you do the raptor there is nothing else you could do other then wait for another auto. Hitting a raptor fills that gap, but may clip your auto by .5 or less depending on your weapon and timing. that is like 700-1500 more damage every 5 or so so autos that your otherwise would have been playing with yourself in the corner.

Doing a serpent in that gap would be better, but is not allowed in a raid due to debuff limit.

You understand how many hunters have recorded logs on fights like Mag and Golemag? There is simply no evidence at all that this magic spec yields that increase. Even if it increased the skill cap dramatically and only the top 100 players could do it, the top 100 logs would all be weaving and 10% above the others.

Itā€™s just not the case. People are theory crafting but the results donā€™t match.

Horde 2h warriors can use it for PvE. Otherwise itā€™s a pvp for both of them, roll it off, give it to the most active pvper, who cares. Keep your asscandy, I just want my CHT/BB.

What? 2h fury is amazing for anything cleave its viable as slam spec alliance side and spamstring horde side for single target. BRE and Ashkandi are the two bis wepaons for all of the mentioned.

Oeb is way better then Ashkhandi for horde side fury, so is the cleaver and spinal for Orcs.

i want ashkandi too

ashkandi isnt even better than untamed blade, and ofc both of those are far behind bonereaverā€™s. ashkandi looks cool but tbh its not that great a weapon