Right Paladins should just get everything, Mageblade - paladins, Ashkandi - paladins. All future loot - paladins. ya all are rather greedy huh?
none of this has anything to do with the fact that raid prio doesnât come into this weapon with any class.
Even if your dead even my dude. Surely you can understand how much more gear hunters get in raids then their warrior dps counterparts.
When marginal items like Ashkhandi drop why not prio em to the class that will see way less.
Itâs not a raid dps item for anyone in your raid, we can agree on that.
yes but come BWL it evens out immensely, Hunters donât get prio on anything but Xbow of smiting. Oh and tier gear which is defaulted obviously, even Xbow is defaulted by its RAP. BRE is useless for a hunter in the stats department also and we canât use HoR.
So you get 9 pieces prio ? And how many do dps warriors get?
And your tier gear isnât just defaultedâŚitâs desired. Like the priest set.
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if you include untamed blade, heartseeker, Maladath, LotFC, DTC, Claw of the black drake, Dragonbreath canon, DTP, DFT, Malf chest, maybe?, Circle of applied force, CTS, Chromatic boots, Head of nef, Edge of chaos, Shadowflame boots? Cloak of draconic might, Draconic mauler, Draconic avenger, Dooms edge.
Iâm no warrior expert so some may be off obvs but that seems like a lot of potential.
Oh and apparently ashkandi
Super hilarious that the first thing you list is a two hander when you say earlier two handers arenât viable and only loot ho warriors want them class Priod lol 
well warriors get prio and it has strength as a stat so no hunters donât want it
So because hunters donât want it itâs ok for warriors to get it as prio? What about pallis? You arguments about class prio only extend to hunters huh?
Ret is a joke for 1. But yes pallys, on horde no one can use it so warriors. My point is with the 2 handers, why do you need to horde the only viable 2hander from 2 raid tiers for hunters? When you have so many options. MC you have OEB, HoR, BRE, Earthshaker, Spinal reaper. BWL you have Untamed blade, Draconic mauler, Draconic avenger, Drake talon cleaver.
Itâs a PvP weapon for hunters, yes itâs PvP viable for them. Itâs a PvP weapon for warriors. Yes itâs PvP viable for them.
Hunters get substantially more bis gear in raids then dps warriors. Giving warriors prio on the PvP weapon is a way of balancing the scales of overall raid loot distribution.
BRE is better then Ashkhandi for PvP, the others arenât even close.
Right.
BiS is BiS sir.
Melee replaces those weapons almost instantly as soon as they step into BWL.
not really
CHT is a BIS offhand for a rogue till you are deep in AQ and have 2 pugios or pugio and deaths sting
Brute blade is a BIS offhand for humans till Naxx (off hand ZG sword is a side grade)
for horde yea Mal replaces BB if you have a CTS or a Vis but BB/Mal is perfectly acceptable to run based on crap tier droprates on Vis and CTS
whatever formula youâve come up with in your head of balancing scales is completely fabricated to justify loot hording.
Warriors even have more options on ranged weapons then hunters do.
Loot hoarding? Is basic math hard for you? Hunters get more bis for fewer raiders.
Giving an equally valued weapon (a real stretch because warriors use the weapon in PvP more) to the class that receives less in general with more raiders seems like common sense.
More raiders is debateable, more desired yes. More loot was just proven incorrect, and it gets even more so the next 2 tiers. and Ashkandi is BiS for a pvp hunter or a weaving hunter until AQ (weaving hunters are in the top 10 parses). Most guilds with loot councils will prio any +hit or any for that matter trinkets, rings or necks to warriors and rogues over hunters even though we also require them and they also improve our dps significantly. Our BiS 1 handers are also Prio to warriors and rogues.
It wasnât proven incorrect lol you just listed a bunch of gear. Itâs not bis and 60 percent of it warriors donât even want. Why donât you find a real list and start there not all possible items. If I listed all non bis items for hunters it would be like half the raids drops.
Most LCs DONT prio hit items like those to warriors because 6 is our target number. You clearly donât understand warrior gearing at all.
Ashkandi isnât bis either⌠Regardless those items are prio to warriors, you were saying give a dog a bone⌠well you have more bones then you know what to do with them. If you really want to get into it, Giantstalker can be considered better then Dragonstalker, So technically that whole set isnât bis either. You wonât swap to dragon stalker unless your donât have full Giantstalker or until you get 8/8 Dragon stalker and even then only 1 hunter in the raid needs to wear it.
Basically, I donât think people disagree on much here, the important thing is to make sure your guild talks through important loot items and sets rules about who will be able to get a chance at them (whether through loot council, DKP, or rolling).
Again, just talking about my guild specifically, Ashkandi is currently warrior priority because weâve still got warriors PVPing with TUFs.
Maybe that changes before we get an Ashkandi to drop, and if that happens, then weâll probably send it to a hunter.
All of this is just dependent on what your warriors and hunters want to do as well as what youâve gotten to drop to this point. Weâve got hunters and warriors that have no interest in Ashkandi.
Most of Those items Shouldnât be prio to warriors lol
If they are in your guild I can understand your frustration.
Top .5% of hunters will use Ashkhandi for pve bis. 99.5% wonât. Itâs a big difference in play style spec and consumes. To point out the top few who are capable as an example of why it should be pve bis for your whole class when you canât even master your three button ranged combo or pet control is disingenuous.
Aka 99 percent of hunters trying to use it for better pve dps will lose damage.
I donât even want it haha, I need my brutality blade to go with my CHT. I just think it should not be warrior prio over hunter, just because f hunters. I can weave also but itâs hardly worth it as it does require immense concentration and good luck to not stuff up at any point and completely negate the benefit. Regardless for those that do want to, they can and it can be BiS if they can do it.
I also already had Ashkandi in vanilla, my gear level is low but I parse for my Ilvl around 95 percentile, without world buffs, So generally I do have my rotation down and pet management as good as you can get it. I just choose not to weave as I have done it in the past and it is probs the most intense class you can dps with when you do.
It also allows hunters to scale slightly better and utilize buffs and world buffs that only effect melee AP. If your horde you can even get lucky WF procs as well.