If you make this crystal clear beforehand and your guild warriors agree, I don’t see the problem with giving a hunter priority on Ashkandi.
That being said, if your guild has some warriors aiming for high rank and their best 2H is still TUF, it’s hard for me to see them being okay with Ashkandi going to a hunter. There’s no way I’d allow that to happen in my guild, and I think pretty much all the other PVP focused warriors would agree.
Most warriors that PVP are PVEing in order to gear for PVP. And yes that includes getting a big 2H to melt people with…
Your last statement is confusing to me, if you’re talking about having for example a warrior with TUF and a hunter with Lok, for PVP, it should be obvious that you should be giving the warrior the Ashkandi.
If your PVP focused warriors all have 70+ DPS weapons, then by all means prioritize Ashkandi to a hunter.
Heck, I was just in a pug WSG with a hunter with Ashkandi. So it’s already happened lol.
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Eh. Even in a PVE situation I’d prefer tossing it to melee classes first. They dont get too much loot to begin with due to heavy competition on almost everything they would want, combined with a lack of itemization for them in the first place.
It’s more of making sure everyone gets a little something every now and then.
Lol, don’t get much loot? Maybe the issue is class composition, if you have 10 fury warriors then obviously there will be a lot of competition.
Hunters have the worse competition for our BiS non set pieces, as well as a stigma a lot of players have that we don’t deserve BiS because we have a class quest that provides terribly itemized weapons.
Literally every item a Hunter could want that isn’t a set piece has other classes claiming priority. Trinkets, rings, neck pieces, melee weapons, ranged weapons, and every other item slot. Thank god only hunters can use quivers or that would also be warrior priority, our staff would end up druid priority if they could use it.
Right. And the melee classes that can use a 2h dont even have a useful set till AQ. They scrounge random blues and the odd non set piece that exists, a couple pieces in each raid.
Hunters gear up far faster than other physical dps classes even with the other classes getting priority over them.
Ashjre’thul drop rate is actually quite low for example, I’ve seen I think 2 drop in vanilla 1 of which I won, I would have raided bwl 40+ times.
Yet weapons that outperform rhok’delar are warrior and rogue priority.
The only melee class that should be raiding with 2hander that can use swords is pallys. Which in no way is a viable raiding spec in general, and they can use maces giving them priority on HoR.
This is warriors trying to claim priority on offspec items issue only.
Literally every raid has multiple 2handers good for warriors, pallys, shamans etc. There is maybe 1 good 2hander for hunters in each raid. Apart from MC as Lok’delar is crap and AQ20 which has none that are viable.
That’s mostly because gear isn’t important for hunters. You’re there for your utility, which is gear-independent, not for your DPS.
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See, that’s the thing. You view it as offspec. Many warriors view fury and prot as their offspec. They take that gear as a neccessary step to get their real loot, the pvp gear.
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The only classes out dps hunters at this stage is warriors and rogues, and thats not including fights that range has an advantage where hunters top dps. The only reason warriors and rogues beat out hunters is they scale better with consumes and buffs and hunters are unable to supplement their dps with serpent sting.
Once fights like twin emps are out hunters will be beating out warriors and rogues also.
In which case if the guild agrees and is pvp focused, yes the warrior should get it over the hunter. But not every guild runs consistent pvp premades etc.
Then we agree. Guild loot rules are what matter and if you dont like it, find a guild that fits your desires
why not get 2 boneslicing hatchets and put 15 agi on each?
thats nearly 60 agi from 2 weapons.
Yes that is better, or even better CHT and Brutality blade with 15 agi. But 2handers arnt just stat sticks, they are used for jousting in a raptor strike in pvp and for weaving in a raptor strike in pve between autoshots like you do with aimed and multi.
So is a warrior that’s using a 2hd, and you should be using nightfall/BRE for the procs, not ashkandi if you’re that chosen 2hd warrior.
Are you kidding here? Do you understand the most basic gearing for either class? Pre bis fury warriors want 5 items out of MC. Pre bis hunters want 14 in phase 2 from MC.
How many fury warriors do you have. How many hunters?
Can you understand why an item like Ashkhandi that is a PvP item might be more impactful for warriors. It also keeps the sanity for a class that can go months without an LC drop vs a class that gets 80 percent of its bis drops with no competition.
If you have no pvp warriors, but have hunters who are ripping the charts up already with weaving sure give to them then. Otherwise PvP war > try hard hunter (proven with weaving logs already) > war > hunter
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In all honesty, if you got a Nightfall wielding 2H warrior raiding with you, they’re probably there for Ashkandi (or a Rag weapon in MC) to begin with…
So even if they’re using Nightfall for PVE to help the raid, I’d assume they’re going to want an Ashkandi or SR at least for PVP since neither is a PVE weapon.
If they don’t care about PVP, that’s great, but like in my guild, we got an Orc Warrior that’s probably going to be carrying Nightfall in raids for us. We’ll probably priority him a big hitting axe like SR for PVP.
What 14 items do hunters want from mc exactly? lol.
My point remains, it is an offspec item and if a guild is very pvp centric then sure prio to the warrior, if not it should be free game as it benefits both classes greatly.
Just because fury warrior set gear isn’t itemized the way they want shouldn’t effect them getting a useless weapon for raiding.
It’s useless for raiding for 99 percent of hunters too. Including you.
8/8 qsr accuria , cht/brut rhok and shrouded mist.
Why do I know more about your class then you?
QSR is rubbish, Elven ring is better, Shrouded mist isn’t as good as baron cape.
Fine, assume your right. 11 bis. How many hunters do you raid with.
How many fury warriors?
Not in a min-max guild so pretty even numbers actually, depending on the night.