Hunter Pet Damage Adjustment Coming Soon Today

[Adreaver-undermine (Adreaver)]

@Kaivax

A side effect of this was that Hunter pet attacks started scaling with weapon attack power, increasing the damage of a Hunter pet’s special attacks by about 32.5% at 450 item level.

This is pretty clear about the fact there was an unintentional 32.5% buff yesterday.

[Maizou-proudmoore (Maizou)]

@Sylvanae-area-52

Cool now do the raid chart, warcraftlogs com/zone/statistics/35#difficulty=4&dataset=95

This might come as a shock to you, but bear with me.

If they’re overperforming in Single Target and barely keeping up on M+, you can do things to nerf Single Target damage that won’t blanket 25% nerf M+ where they’re already struggling in.

[Adreaver-undermine (Adreaver)]

@Sylvanae-area-52

Absolutely not the same difference unless you think only hunters with an aug on their team are allowed to equip a weapon, the bug was literally making pet damage scale with weapon attack power. Again literally the only reason Aug is even mentioned in the post is because they were changing how logs attributed damage from pets

Incorrect.

The bug was that they forgot they had an additional flat multiplier on pet specials when they swapped to the standard weapon damage formula.

They are (now) intentionally scaling with weapon damage.

[Pincushion-kelthuzad]

@Asthelon-area-52

Kaivax said in OP that pets were doing extra damage after a recent hotfix, it’s right there

This needs to be more clear though. How/what gave our pets a 32.5% increase? Was it just adding weapon scaling? That seems odd to me.

Also what is the timeline, I raided yesterday evening, was my damage boosted then? If so, that means it’s still a nerf. Because tomorrow when I raid, I won’t be top of the charts any more.

[Geradrox-draenor]

There is no proof that the “accidental” boost pushed Hunters to the top of the DPS charts. Yea they hit harder but nowhere near other DPS classes. Blizzard just did not want Hunters to be that strong because they are so many of them.

Hunter. Bottom DPS. For All Time. Always. ;D

[Maizou-proudmoore (Maizou)]

The amount of people in this thread that don’t understand that if the bug made them overperform in ST but made them viable in AoE, the fix should be lowering single target damage, not a blanket 25% nerf to all damage.

Y’all worry me.

[Fuglymugly-sulfuras]

@Bepples-barthilas

Actually fun fact I am always correct. The haters just hate me because they ain’t me.

So you are a narcissist then? Well thanks for clarifying always had my suspicions…

[Asthelon-area-52]

@Pincushion-kelthuzad

Also what is the timeline, I raided yesterday evening, was my damage boosted then?

Doesn’t seem to be no, earliest I saw people talking about it was around 7 and a half hours ago. So for all intents and purposes you probably won’t notice a difference at all

[Bepples-barthilas]

Do you admit you’re wrong on this yet?

[Sylvanae-area-52]

The swapping to scaling with weapon damage was accidental they decided they liked the change and want to keep it,

@Kaivax

The side effect is something we would like to retain

but either way we mostly agree what happened and why the nerf is happening

[Riidley-area-52]

Again, is the patch live or not?

[Pincushion-kelthuzad]

Thanks for the information.

The good thing to come from this: BM might actually scale better now.

[Fuglymugly-sulfuras]

The speed in which you reply tells me your just itching to fight and troll people on the interwebs. Bro your actually sad. Get a grip. I tried to disengage, stop responding to me plz.

[Bepples-barthilas]

I need wrong people to know they’re wrong, yes.

But you already said you’ll stop replying and that’s just as good.

Bye.

[Fuglymugly-sulfuras]

@Bepples-barthilas

I need wrong people to know they’re wrong, yes.

Classic narc logic. Gotta prove something.

[Bepples-barthilas]

Enjoy the BM changes

[Adreaver-undermine (Adreaver)]

You are not properly understanding how pet damage was calculated before.

As of two days ago, the formula for Kill Command was Attack power * 1.29 * 1 * 1 * 1 * 1 * 1 * (1 + Versatility) * 1.07.

See that extra 1.29? That’s a bonus coefficient they had included, because pet damage didn’t scale with weapon damage. Pet damage only scaled with AP.

After this change, the formula was something more like this:
Attack power * 1.29 * 1 * 1 * 1 * 1 * 1 * (1 + Versatility) * 1.07 * (1 + WeaponDamageCoefficient)

Adding WeaponDamageCoefficient worked to about a 32.5% buff in overall damage. This hotfix is now changing the 1.29 to 1.04.

In practice, this should be a small buff for anyone with a weapon over ~450 ilvl.

[Adreaver-undermine (Adreaver)]

@Pincushion-kelthuzad

The good thing to come from this: BM might actually scale better now.

This is the correct takeaway.

Also that everything pet related is a spaghetti mess of legacy code held together with hopes, dreams, and duct tape.

[Kinemetra-barthilas]

@Maizou-proudmoore

Same. Difference.

They accidentally buffed them by allowing augmentation to give them more damage than intended.

INSTEAD OF FIXING THAT INTERACTION, they blanket nerfed.

Again, I DON’T EVEN PLAY BM. However, the fact you and so many others lack proper logic is disturbing to me. This is not an acceptable change in the least. You should not be praising Blizzard for a blanket nerf

This is literally not what happened. You are saying words that are the opposite of facts. The letters you type represent a universe other than this one. You are describing an eventuality that never eventuated.

How else could it be put, do you think?

[Swan-onyxia]

So Some classes get free passes and get to be meta for months and seasons up until they get title. but as soon as hunters are seen as “Okay” they get nerfed to the ground. It just makes someone feel really discouraged getting picked to raid mythic and do keys higher than 24s on a class they love. to now everyone will decline every hunter from seeing this notice. Thank you Blizzard. Thank goodness i’m learning other classes Rip