Whelp, it was bound to happen, I agree with Bepples. Just saying that made me vomit in my mouth a little but folks, come on, Echo’s hunters were doing like 40% more damage than other S tier players. It was obviously unintended. They fixed it. If your fragile ego can’t handle not being op then hunter is NOT the class for you.
BM will still be toping meters after this fix. Especially early in the tier.
Also, this was the first blue post in this forum for almost a year and a half. We should probably be more upset about that than a simple fix to an error.
It has more to do with tier then it does augmenters and special attack, or there is no reason to hit it so hard and include kill command.
It also 100% effects tier, as lucky few have already started getting it. In the non tier keys I’ve been running, there has not been super-run-away damage.
Hence I said “the real problem” and what they are getting ahead of, nerf it now this way so tier gets a little bump from where it just was, before it runs away.
But it guts (at least in perception) the hunters right now, vs. doing it the other way, nerfing the tier set.
Its not always what a person tells you they are doing, and when you are dealing with a company, its often the reading between the lines they don’t say out loud. Examine cause and effect vs. reasoning and simple math.
Simping for blizzard gets you nothing. You guys can fan the flames all you want, pick fights say w/e…but this a pattern. A pattern cannot be disputed. You can either recognize it, or bury your head in the sand.
Stuff like this gets people to unsub and not play for years. If this truly was a issue, it should have been stamped out in the PTR and never made it live. Knee jerk nerfs and not something we should have to endure regardless of the reason. Sorry. Its wrong.
It really has nothing to do with the tier. You seem to be failing to understand that within the last 24 hours there was a massive and unintended buff to pet damage as a result of a botched fix to a different issue. This obviously couldn’t be kept around; it was game-breaking. Your understanding of BM tuning and the tier is separate to that whole matter.
Probably should’ve just started with 5% or 10% first, 25% seems extremely heavy handed. I was finally having fun in raid after a terrible expansion of being at the bottom and Blizzard immediately comes in a nerfs key abilities by 25%. Gradual nerfs are better overall. Perhaps more testing on the PTR was needed? Oh wait, it was all spent on other classes.
Also, guaranteed once everyone gets their 4 set, I’m going to look back on this nerf and say “told you so.” BM always seems to get an up front nerf that is never reverted and ends up suffering through tiers. It’s happened once, it will happen again.
How does this make sense?? You nerfed our class because of a DIFFERENT class? What about all the people who DIDN’T run with Augmentation that DON’T get the buff? Why are you punishing all the other players who don’t run with them?? And also, 25%?? Where in your minds did you think this was a great idea?
Fact of the matter is two of the specs are dead for M+ and the one viable M+ spec just got nerfed 25%.
If the issue is they do too much damage in raid because they’re more likely to have an augmentation with them, the change should have been to change how affected BM is by augmentation, not a blanket nerf.
This is like in Shadowlands when they blanket nerfed demonology by like 30% when the issue was Demo locks being funneled Power Infusion,.
They accidentally buffed pet damage by 30% in the past 24 hours.
This was not on PTR. This was not part of a systemic pattern. It was a one-off mistake that buffed an already powerful spec to absurd dominance and it had to be corrected quickly.
Me, reading the announcement: “oh hey, this is a big that blizzard actually found and addressed early, explained well and actually fixed. Good job blizzard!”
Your inability to understand my reasoning, in no way justifies you painting me with a more limited understanding of part of the problem I am not talking about.
Clearly what I am saying is making you think, keep going, you can get there without insulting, you just have to stop painting what I am saying with what you think I am saying.
I’ve read it twice now. That doesn’t change my position at all. It should be gradual nerf, not a heavy handed 25%. I’m not exactly sure what your point is at all.
Pet damage used to have a formula for scaling that wasn’t being properly parsed as buffed by Augvokers. Blizz changed that formula so it would properly attribute to Augvokers. In the process, they unintentionally overbuffed BM pet specials by ~32.5% damage. This is a reversion of the damage values back to roughly what they were 48 hours ago, but with pet specials now properly attributing to Augvokers and scaling with weapon damage.
