Huge nerf to solo/outdoor gear progression in DF Season 1

Correct, but while the gear from that level is capped low, the only reason they are so popular is because they provide valor that can be used to upgrade M+ gear. I think that is a bit of the issue, the group content at some levels is not harder then the solo or world content, at least not by a whole lot, but that gets the upgrade path yet world content does not, even at a nerfed rate.

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Even a M+2 Vault will reward massive upgrades for a solo player.

Because in a +2, you still gotta play.

You can’t just swoop in on a rare at 4% and just tag it while others zergged it down.

+2 keys require a bit more gameplay than your typical world fare. Thus why it gets rewards.

The question you should be asking is not why the world isn’t more rewarding, it’s why some solo players absolutely refuse to just get into a group. That’s a completely self made barrier they set on themselves, since as you say, the content isn’t harder.

Why not just give world content players those rewards without having to do a 2 though

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Why should you be given rewards ?

Just walk into the dungeon and claim it.

Why not just give world content players mythic raid rewards without having to do mythic raids though?

Eh, I’d settle for end of dungeon rewards, with maybe a vault based on world content that is less then the M+ row.

Maybe because mythic raids are harder and deserve better gear but for some there is not much difficulty between a +2 and world content, outside of finding a group.

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Solo content is already getting LFR level which is higher than end of dungeon (non-M+).

So0rry, was a damn RL for years, then when i left that role, i did my time “proving myself” to other guilds i joined. I was the guy they came to when they needed X class/spec, because i could actually play them all equally well.

I have nothing to prove to you, not a dang thing at all.

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So go do the +2.

Dunno why you think you need to be rewarded for sitting on a mount, tagging mobs at 5% that others killed though.

That proves absolutely nothing. Anyone that can click on “invite player” can be a “raid leader”.

If you are claiming to be as good or better than someone you need to have a leg to stand on.

But the same as end of dungeon for a +2 or 3, which is wat I was talking about as far as end of dungeon.

In essence, it would be the same as LFR/M+2-3, with a vault row that might be the same as end of dungeon for a +4-5

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I know you. I saw you. You used to walk uphill barefoot both ways in the snow to raids. You’d show up with your three abilities on onyxia and keyboard turn and click your abilities. Except, that’s before when you started playing. Anyway, you really earned your stripes, and you’re a great player because you say so.

Also-what exactly did you raid lead? All your raid achievements show you having never cleared a raid when it was current. Were you raid leading transmog runs? Seriously. Just browsing, you typically only do a raid 3-13 years after it was current.

What I don’t get is some of you spent more time in this thread belly aching about DF “only” giving you 385s for Storm Sigils, yet all that time could have been spent running 4 keys for a weekly vault.

A +2 or +3 is more challenging than LFR simply because you can’t fail an LFR. Groups will get the bosses down eventually because others will carry them. M+ on the other hand you are stuck with those 5 people and if you hit a hard wall for whatever reason, there is no determination buff.

This is how I view the content/reward structure (simply speaking)

While true, Blizzard has set both end of dungeon for a +2-3, and LFR base at 376, LFR caps at 385 which is the same as M+7-8 end of dungeon or M+3-4 vault. I am not saying that the M+ is not more challenging, just wondering why if it is, it does not provide above LFR for end of dungeon.

Spammable. Upgradeable.

I’d be bored to tears and then open my vault to get nothing. Also when I’m in a key I don’t feel comfortable being on my phone

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So instead you were bored to tears on the forum and don’t even get to open the vault at all.

Seems weird people whine about not getting gear, yet do nothing to get said gear.

No I like the forums.

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