How we REALLY got our TBC honor (with sources)

I think it’s a nice idea, but when you look at how the world PvP objectives work it’s just not very feasible. They all either only occur once every 3 hours, or you have the objectives that can flip back and forth. Either the rates would be good enough that people would just abuse the hell out of it or they would still not be enough to make a dent in the grand scheme of things. I’m not completely opposed to the idea, I just don’t think it’d make anywhere near enough difference to matter.

BGs just work perfectly cause you can queue at any time and with any amount of people for that BG (with AV being the only one at a 5 man team limit). It’s about as casual or as hardcore friendly as you want. The problem is just the grind is way too slow and time intensive. They don’t need to add any new systems to the game like merc mode or cross-realm garbage, they just simply need to up the honor rates and in a significant way. It’s about as simple, easy, and harmless a change they could make for the game while solving pretty much all of the major problems that currently exist with PvP.

Well they need to do something about the queues too. You can’t just give Horde more honor than Alliance because that would be a massive discrepancy in the effort required to earn honor between factions. I can sit in a queue and do something productive for 40 minutes as Horde and then play a 15 minute BG for 2x or 3x the honor rate as Alliance? Doesn’t work.

They have to add merc mode along with improving honor, or actually work to faction balance; maybe let Horde fight Horde. Something has to be done to lower queue times drastically for the Horde.

Not a knock on you, but nobody even stopping to ask “why” the horde queues are so long feels so dumb to me. There are multiple reasons, but the biggest by far is that everyone is trying to farm this blue set. Thats why there are so many queueing and the queues are so long. If people were able to farm out this set in a much more reasonable amount of time, they’d stop queueing so much and queues would become much better. Same way queues were aids in phase 2 but once the first wave of rankers got their rank 14 gear queues slowly started to die down again and just got better over time.

I think opting for the least intrusive option is always the best in the frame of Classic. Upping honor rates anywhere between 3 to 5x more would make it much better for everyone while also indirectly solving the queue problem.

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Or just add the rep vendor pvp gear up honor gains but not to crazy, this cuts the grind in half while making it easier to get the off pieces of the set, or just allow horde vs horde BGs

Well thought out post still, ignore the one Alliance pally complaining and please listen to the entire community blizzard!

Blizz just needs to throw us the 100% honor gain buff we had in prepatch and call it a day.

You don’t even read my posts. What am I complaining about?

This would only slightly alleviate the issue for one phase. This problem will persist through each phase of the game if honor isn’t properly addressed. A permanent solution of honor being increased is required.

@Blizzard Hey!!

This issue is ongoing and has not received a response from the classic wow team clarifying whether the honor values currently in game are accurate to their true TBC values.

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Really depressing that this has gotten 0 response from the Blues when it has been this big of an issue for almost 3 weeks now. The only Blue response regarding honor we got was Kaivax saying “Well I didn’t farm any honor in season 1 or 2, and didn’t buy any honor gear during those seasons either, but I just also remembering it taking a while so it’s probably accurate.” Not inspiring much confidence, and also tells us the people making these decisions on the Classic team probably aren’t even playing the game.

Bump so we can actually pvp and get rewards.

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no, the honor grind itself is busted

who cares if a bunch of dudes got honor cap during pre patch, it doesn’t change the fact that the current honor grind is completely aids and needs buffed

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Everyone who is playing arena against these people cares.

Not to mention that many of them used the auto-mail refund system to get even more marks for even more honor.

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what i mean is if they actually fixed honor so the grind was reasonable none of this would be an issue

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Bumping because these idiots still havent fixed their stupid game yet <3

FIX THE HONOR PROBLEM YOU POTATOES!

This is all true! i knew there was some reason things felt about half as fast! half the honor makes sense