oh boy the people who want a min rank would love your idea
you are responsible for the mats - the interface just uses what you give it so if you are using cheap mats your problem
the only min I would agree with for public work orders is a max of R4 plus a min commission of 10k if you use that. A lot of items you can’t make as R5 unless you use specific crafter items.
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edited because I misunderstood.
Right now with public order we can’t choose the crafter therefore an unskilled and unspecialized crafter can ruin your order with best quality mats. There’s also not enough demand for lower quality equipment and material for people to level professions on the board.
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The entire reason that the crafting order system was created, was so that M+ runners could get 418 gear made with BoP mats from dungeons, without having the relevant professions.
No one will use the orders as long as they can’t set a minimum rank for it. At least not for actual gear.
the only min I would agree with for public work orders is a max of R4 plus a min commission of 10k if you use that. A lot of items you can’t make as R5 unless you use specific crafter items.
What’ll happen when someone continually puts up a work order for something to be a T5 when no one can do that for them?
They’ll either wait until someone can or settle for a lower tier until someone can recraft it for them.
There are simple solutions to the problems you’re all turning into mountains.
blizzard has information that isn’t the case - I have filled public work orders for gear and I often see people wanting gear made from those raid patterns up there.
simple solution to your problem as well - ask on trade - join a guild - level up a profession yourself. It is pointless for blizzard to set up a system and allow people to put up orders when they know they can’t be filled because the game prevents it.
The only thing this does is ensure all public orders are 5 star spicy all the time.
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Oh trust me, i feel ya. My main had been engineering since mid TBC. This expansion i decided to finally drop it in favor of enchanting. For sentimental value, i still keep Jeeves in my backpack right next to my hearthstone.
I like sitting at the table on Tuesdays using an alt crafter to do Treatise public work orders. I’m always disappointed when I run out of my 20 for the day.
Good, saves on Trade spam and wasting time finding the guy who can do it, when the system can filter out the undesirable 50 skill crafters with 0 points into what you want made.
This makes more sense.
Not allowing the best crafters to craft items wont encourage people to use the system. Not knowing the quality you will be getting appears to be a main complaint.
The problem is there aren’t enough customers for everyone to have a crafter and also level their crafter through crafting orders.
IMHO the solution is decoupling leveling from the crafting system and then add the ability for crafters to offer services that guarantee a quality but require the level of matts needed to make that quality.
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it makes no sense - you guys making these suggestions obviously aren’t crafters - there are items you can’t make at a certain rank unless the crafter provides the items. And no one is going to use their scarce limited resources for 20g which is what some public orders are.
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I’ve seen public orders for 1 silver, most are 1-5 gold. Of all the crafters I have my Inscription alt gets all her orders done. My other characters rarely ever see an order, so I am forced to charge myself to craft orders to get my weekly done. Let alone no matter how much I gather some item’s I never find in enough supply to get weekly’s done unless I want to pay stupid prices for materials.
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It’s a bad reason, it’s just screwed the crafters. And they could work around it if they wanted by having optional BoP mats that drop from M+ that add stats or effects.
Blizz made all of the epics BoP, then made quests to gain more KP that requires filling Crafting Orders, then added an Artisan’s Mettle “tax” for public orders, and removed the ability to set minimum quality. There’s no incentive to enter public Crafting Orders. Why pay the tax and lose control when you can just send it to guild or hit up a trade spammer? There are few (if any) public orders and virtually never for non-epics, forcing trade chat spam (in an already congested channel) to get orders, and most folks are just sending themselves crafting orders to fulfill the quests anyway. To top it all off, 99% of the crafting orders that do exist have super lowball tips. The recipes can cost hundreds of thousands of gold, or require a lot of KP deep into a specific tree, but most crafting orders seem to only tip a couple hundred; it’s not worth it for the crafter in most cases.
IMO Crafting Orders are a failure in their current iteration.
Edit to add: The funny thing was that I was seeing Crafting Orders for recipes that only drop from raid long before the raid was even out. Why allow orders for things that aren’t obtainable yet? LOL
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As a still newish Blacksmith, I’ve yet to see a public order and I’ve checked everyday since my toon hit L70 (2 weeks in from launch). Maybe I’m doing something wrong, or maybe as a raid team member said, it’s being sniped on high-pop servers so you’ll likely never see one unless you spend all day hitting refresh.
Whatever the cause, I’ve never seen one so the system effectively doesn’t work for me as is. I thought it’d be like the auction house, which always has lots of listings, but it’s not for me on Proudmoore at least.
That’s pretty much what is happening. Heck, i am doing it right now as i am typing this out.
That’s why i suggested earlier in the thread to make public work order region wide, while simultaneously limiting how many any individual crafter could do to about ~5 a week. This would solve a few issues.
The few crafting orders there are being sniped by a few individuals, preventing new crafters from being able to level up their profession. And secondly, since the amount of work orders any one person can do is limited. They would only choose to do the ones with high commission rates. Giving crafters a chance to also make some gold. Or at least, recoup some gold.
Again, they should get rid of that damn quest. All it does is cause people to complain.
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What about quests to enter public Crafting Orders that require completion for credit?
The problem with public crafting orders is that customers cannot set the minimum quality while also having to provide EVERY reagent for the order. If customers could at least set the minimum quality, then perhaps the system would actually be used by the vast majority of the community. I did the former for my Elemental Lariat on my Evoker (and now many in my guild use this same Jewelcrafter for theirs) and plan to do it again for an embellished mail waist piece sometime this weekend. As it stands now, many players search for crafters in trade chat then send personal orders to them because there customers can set minimum qualities and have to only provide soulbound reagents.
Ya lol, who the hell thought tying crafting orders as a fun and reasonable way to level your professions. Arbitrarily slowing down professions is not meaningful progression. It’s annoying.
The stupid system should of ever only been made for convenience to have top end BOP gear made.
By the time I learn to craft anything at it’s top rank that is BOP, the server[s] I’m on will have an over supply of crafters fighting for an order and private ones too [via spamming trade chat].
Not fun. I’m over this to be honest.
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