How to get 12 million subs back. Step by step guide

You ever play Vanilla? The inconveniences in that game are not a mistake, they are in fact vital.
The technology existed in 2004 to allow people to queue from anywhere and teleport and fly all over the world and level alts in a few days and regen fast enough to effectively run on empty. There is a reason the game was not made that way.

Just think about it.

LOL no.

You can stop patting yourself on the back for providing inspiration to the other 99%.

People are here to play the game. Not providing accessible content to the majority of potential customers just results in fewer customers.

“Hardcore” players are an insignificant minority. Nobody who doesn’t raid mythic needs a mythic raiding guide.

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You would never make a fun game by building it with the expectation that your players won’t get very far.

“Most players do less than 20% of the quests in Skyrim!”
“Wow, next time we make a game let’s make it with 80% fewer quests!”

Can you see the problem.

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Yes, these changes would restore my faith in Blizzard.

Really? Was there a game available to play in 2004 that had automated queueing for random groups across multiple servers? Which game(s) was it?

As for the rest, WoW’s gameplay methods at the time were presumably a matter of choice by the developers. I mean, they could theoretically have made mana so that it never ran out, or that hunter pets never got hungry or that hunters never ran out of arrows or that mages could hurl frostbolts across the width of a zone. They did it that way in order to put limits and barriers in place. You never make a fictional character all-powerful because to do that is to remove all dramatic effect from the story. Likewise in a game, you have limits to level the playing field. But over time, as they expanded the character potentials, they provided a larger world to play in with more indepth character builds and gave players a lot more choice as to how to play their characters. Yes, some of the stuff was missed, and some was an improvement. Its called evolution. To remain static is to devolve.

Personally, I never missed running out of ammunition in a dungeon…Just on a personal note…

:australia:

Obviously “queue from anywhere” refers to queueing for battlegrounds from a menu, not to LFD which has many additional features. But you knew that and just wanted to play dumb because you think that’s an effective tactic.

Leveling slowly means people can only commit to having 1 main. That’s important because when you see the same person twice odds are they are gonna be on the same character so you’ll recognize them.

In a world where everyone has 12 alts you can be standing in Orgrimmar next to 30 people you’ve interacted with before and have no idea because all of you are on different characters. That’s terrible for community.

Nice try at reading my mind but no, failed there. I have a minimal knowledge of the history of game development. For all I knew there may well have been a game back then with that functionality. Since your words said there were, I was actually curious. I didn’t actually call you out, I just asked you a question.

That is true, to an extent. When I started playing I only had one real character for a very long time because I was new and had very little gold and it took me a fair time to figure out how the game worked (I’d never played an MMO before so I was a total noob). But I was anxious to try other classes, especially the hunters because I loved the concept.

I realise you crave the olden days of single servers and knowing everyone but except in Classic (or if they created the Pristine servers which is basically what you are talking about) you won’t see that gameplay style again. The world has moved on, and turning WoW into that pattern of play would not turn back the clock.

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People who left probably left for a good reason. Once you leave a mmo it’s very hard to just come back after several years.

A few examples, EQ2, Lotro, Daoc, Rift, they are some mmos that I’ve played for a longer period of time. I’d never go back to them even if they changed. They’re all pretty dated and if I were to go back it would be because of nostalgic reasons and that never holds any water. You’d play a week or so and all the bad stuff would come back, ie the reasons you left in the first place.

But that’s just me! I like to look forward not backward.

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I wish they would just let us buy flying mounts again, like they did in MoP. That’s also something that could make them more money too because I can’t be the only person out there who doesn’t do all the quests and likes one of the mounts in their shop but refuses to pay $25 for a mount that would be grounded where I would use it the most.

You may have a few good ideas but it won’t change anything.

This. I cant stand 20 man. Personally I’d be much more willing to raid if they made 10 man viable again.

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i agree with all except 5 and 6 lmfao high eyes are quite literally an eye color change and vulpera should stay an npc, we dont need every new npc to become an allied race i wanna see something more original for a change

While I don’t think think they’ll get to their pinnacle, I do think it could bring some people back.

  1. Titanforging can work in certain circumstances (such as a one-time leveling quest, but trying to farm War/Titanforging CAN get tiresome. When it happens when you don’t expect it, it can be nice, but if people are fishing for it maybe not so much.
  2. If you mean give back many of the abilities they removed for the “pruning,” I agree. I loved having the situational spells for . . . well, situations. If people never use it, they don’t have to keep it on their bars.
  3. I don’t like random stats on things. If that’s what you mean, I agree. For the most part, I enjoyed a lot of what Legion had to offer. Just something about BfA feels . . . stale already.
    b- I don’t do Mythic raids so . . no idea. I know some guilds had a tough time filling all 20 though.
    c- I think at least for Guild Runs, they definitely should. Or if the group is composed mainly of guildies.
    d- OMG YES!! This is a point that I’ve been hearing from friends and guildies over and over again. They want to be able to earn and work toward solid goals, knowing exactly what’s available (including stats) and being able to choose what to get when. And honestly, anticipating having enough Valor or PvP points to get that thing you REALLY want is actually really exciting.
    e- OMG OMG OMG YES and YES!!! I wouldn’t mind bringing back reforging as well, though there are some who disliked it.
  4. I would personally like that. OR make a shorter version of Pathfinder with a choice . . . if people can LEVEL by questing dungeons or PvP, why not give people a choice? (Loremaster, Dungeonmaster or Battlemaster). And maybe that’s it and just have people dabble in whatever is the new system. (Like, Participate in one full cycle of Warfronts, something like that). I definitely think they should remove the requirement for OLD content. In fact, I’d say a few months before the next expansion, they should remove it. Though I imagine the cost would be pretty high now. I did see several returning players in Legion kind of lose heart after hearing about Pathfinder and just losing interest in the game.
  5. I don’t know how many people want this, so no idea.
  6. Ditto
  7. I agree. They said they removed things like gold missions from old content so people wouldn’t feel forced to keep going back. And yet, that’s what they want people to do for a feature that’s a part of THIS expansion. During Legion, it kept people busy during the last few months. Right now, it’s not necessary.
  8. Some of their writing is great (the Suramar storyline in Legion) and some were just a betrayal to the characters they created (seriously, Thalryssra would not be so butt-hurt about Tyrande’s suspicions enough to go full-horde).

As I said, I don’t think there is any way to bring back 12 mil, but some of this might increase the engagement of many who right now, aren’t engaged (not logging on, only logging on for a “chore” like emissary, etc) and maybe raise enough interest in people who left recently.

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Who says that is the target audience with these changes?

What if they just remove any elements of that annoying “gameplay”? The game can be just loot boxes with guaranteed 475 gear. No warfronts, no quests, no islands, no dungeons, no raids, no PvP, no classes. No gameplay whatsoever to get in the way of getting the phat purps!

I mean gypsy fox people are pretty original for a playable race considering I have never seen another mmo or even regular rpg do so. plenty of cats, dogs, and other stuff to that nature but never foxes.

as for high elves if you believe it is an eye color swap you are just unimaginative. they can easily change them to be far more different.

The OP? read his topic “How to get 12million subs back”

The changes won’t give us back 12million subs, classic won’t give us 12million subs.

It’s over dude.

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Did anyone see the article about the woman in charge of the whole Roseanne fiaco just ‘quit’ (likely asked to resign)?

football coaches who suddenly end up with losing seasons get fired all the time.
IF this game is actually doing as poorly as some seem to indicate, isnt a change of management in order?

Ive seen managers at jobs fired before over company performance.
It happens…and many times it works.

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It will be 11,999,999 subs because if they add those stupid fox people to the horde I will quit the game and delete the blizzard app

I highly doubt it is over. warcraft still has a good century or 2 before it ends.