Again, you’ve increased the number of players willing to abandon to key from 4 to 5. This isn’t the massive jump you make it out to be. Also if leaders choose to disband their own pugs over and over looking for the perfect run, then let them. I would never do that if I pugged my own key. Thats such a massive waste of time. If I was that serious about key progression I wouldn’t be pugging that key in the first place.
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And there is the second troll,
now we need to wait for Snoz to come and they would be complete.
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It doesn’t matter what degree it makes pugging worse. It just does. And that’s enough for me to be against.
Your suggestions translate to more or less : mail everyone BIS.
Because it can deplete. Then I’m stuck praying for good rng lotto to succeed my key, all for a weekly vault reward. Either way blows, at least when I join someone else’s key and it fails it only needs to blow once and not twice like it would if it was my own key.
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So what if it can? Run it once, find out you timed, run it again. It’s not complicated.
I’m pretty sure I blocked Snoz over a year ago in one of these threads for the disingenuous arguments and trolling.
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You said yourself you rarely pug if at all, so why would you care?
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Disagreeing with you doesn’t mean people are trolling. Meanwhile, you have Eau bringer of horrible ideas.
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Soso is the same, Faux tries into argument (sometimes).
I can see bad ideas even if it doesn’t affect me.
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Because I only want to run 1 M+? Not run my 10, deplete it, and now have to do at minimum 2 more runs of M+ for my vault. Failing the 10, no matters whose fault it was, has now made me go from having to do 1 run I didn’t want to do in the first place to 3 runs.
Eau has advocated deletion of mythic raiding (and anything with a semblance of difficulty) because the idea that there is content that he cannot do is a design flaw.
Untimed keys still count towards vault. And even if keys do not go down, that doesn’t change that you might fail your first, and thus need to run two.
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This is hilarious. You think keys not depleting will magically make metas go away? People will still invite what’s perceived as the strongest because it increases their chances for success and for a faster run.
I like how you call me a troll and a gatekeeper when I player this toon regardless of it’s tier list standing. Up until the recent .0.5 patch we were the bottom represented tank just ahead of BM. I’m not a FOTM player.
Then run your own key, make friends, or even out your score with whatever you are missing.
They didn’t simply disagree with me. They brought up constant logical fallacies, brought up my “skill” as being the problem, said things like “it won’t change because its always been that way” (which isn’t a real argument), etc.
Tbh the forums and my in game experience are night and day different.
The number of what I could call “toxic” keys I’ve had so far is maybe 3, in the 60-70 keys I’ve ran.
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You can imagine them. Your not a wizard looking into their crystal ball to see the future.
Just say it, “everyone who disagrees is a troll”.
So you basically don’t run M+ and only do it for the vault. You are essentially arguing for something with purely selfish intent. As I argued earlier and now confirmed beyond reasonable doubt.
Its almost like I can disagree with them when it comes to other subject of the game, but agree with them in others.
I know, which is why I try to specify “vault completion, no leaver” in the key titles. People ignore that and leave anyway because theres no punishment for them doing so.
Heres something thats gonna blow your mind. Are you ready? Here it comes… 2 is a smaller number than 3.
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I have a better solution: zero.
Vault is now life-time. And give you on item per week based on lifetime progress of your character. No more weekly stuff to do.