From what I saw, most people who pointed that out were doing it in response to Alliance players complaining about the Nightborne joining the Horde.
I mean, it wouldn’t have been impossible for Blizzard to write her that way–they swept the whole Pandaren-vs-Zandalari thing under the rug, after all. But I personally never thought it was likely.
So wait, you’re saying the High Elves were useless, then? Because during the time Liadrin’s talking about, that’s who “her people” would have been.
That’s … not what I usually hear from Alliance posters.
So much this. :heavy sigh:
Faction wars have lots of problems, but the fact that half the playerbase can’t be forced to quit isn’t one of them, IMO.
What are you laughing at? You act like one of the gatekeepers on Night Elf lore, I assume you’ve read the War of the Ancients trilogy. I also assume that you are aware of the mutual disdain held between the Highborne caste and those of lower birth, which has also been referred to in in-game lore, hence their use of the epithet “lowborn”?
The only thing that held ancient Night Elf society together is that all of the castes held their Queen Azshara in deific awe… even over that of Elune herself.
You don’t understand how one group of former Highborne can relate to another group of former Highborne better than to the lowborn they both used to/still despise?
Because despite physical similarities (they aren’t quite the same any more after millennia of divergence)… THEY DON’T SHARE THE SAME CULTURE. Culture in the ancient Kal’dorei empire was highly stratified… they didn’t even speak the same languages. There were at least three different languages spoken… Darnassian, t he language of the low born, Thalassian, the language of the lesser Highborne and whatever it is the Nightborne speak.
The Kal’dorei are the frozen form of the ancient Night Elves since for them most are in the same generation they were during the Sundering. IF the Night Elves had been mortal, they might have changed as much as the Sin’dorei have.
Yeah they did, Thalassian and Shalassian are both derived from Darnassian. They all spoke Darnassian in the Empire.
What? No… That is what the Nightborne are, the Kaldorei (No apostrophe) changed their culture to deviate away from the Arcane, and live a more pious life in the Light of Elune… Something that was important in the Empire, but falling out of style among highborne. However, we have reason to believe faith in Elune is still fairly popular in Nightborne culture, just not as ingrained into the culture as it is with Kaldorei.
What reason? Having played through the Suramar arc I found not a single shred of evidence that Elune devotion survived under that dome. Not one mention, not one single Temple. (presumably the original temple was in the destroyed ruined part of Suramar)
Apprantly all further worship was diverted to Azshara, then later, Elisande. It seems that as the worship of Azshara rose, the devotion of Elune became more and more relegated to the country bumpkins of the Empire… the Kaldorei.
And my point this entire time has been that Thalyssra ineptly bought those lies without verifying anything for herself.
We do know that. Chronicle covered how Suramar expected the Legion to win and burn down the world and yet thought their shield would keep them safe and leave everyone else for dead.
Sounds like headcanon.
On this point I am not. I am arguing against a tangent premise you brought up:
If I remember correctly the Exile of the Quel’dorei took place before any of the major battles fought in Kalimdor such as the Satyr War and the War of the Sands. With Kalimdor enclosed by Pandaren style Mists, the Exiles would not have any knowledge of the events between the Exile and Reign of Chaos.
I’m not surprised you’re still pretending that I can’t use inductive reasoning even when I just used it to state that Suramar didn’t care about anyone outside their bubble.
The funny thing is you didn’t… You merely assumed emotional motive to a matter of survival. How the Nightborne felt regarding those trapped beyond the shield is irrelevant to the decision they ultimately made. So all you have done is prove to me that you can’t use inductive reasoning lol.
Because Chronicle also said Suramar had no interest in joining the Night Elf Resistance, and Suramar initially sided with Azshara’s plan to summon the Legion to commit genocide against the non-Highborne Night Elves and otherwise. We can put two and two together from there.
