How many of you will play on fresh servers if they come out?

This is a retail mentality. It doesn’t belong in classic vanilla.

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You already have access to that with 2 options:

  • Multiple characters
  • Paying to reset talents

The bottom line is that you lot just want a free instant switch, which negates the entire design of choices mattering. THAT is what is distasteful to many of us.

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i think ur missing a very nice, but small detail that would be added. If they add this which they should, i personally think it would make finding tanks/healers for dungeons, raids, etc…, alot easier. I main prot warrior and i can tell u from experience, and what ive heard that people would be more willing to tank/heal b/c they wouldn’t have to waste a ton of money every time to “fill in” a spot for something. They can learn the role and how to do it without screwing themselves over by spending money every time they want to switch from dungeons/raids, to questing. I like to think that people dont like to tank/heal b/c they dont understand how to do it effectively rather than them just not liking it b/c its boring. Tanking is one of the funnest/molst difficult things u can do in all of wow classic imo. I think alot of other people would agree if they can get the chance to. Wouldnt ruin the game 1 bit and if it did for people, they should stop playing classic b/c the only way people arent going to get consistently bored after a few months of playing the same content over and over again is to add small details like this for old/new players that want to experience wow in more ways.

also i fell like it would make world pvp more alive for the same reasons i listed above

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So I’d be changing my Main spec… that’s not an off spec.

And you have yet to clarify HOW you think it ‘ruins vanilla’…

I can understand that. I was inquiring however of the young lady how it “destroys” the game in their own words.

Yes I know what is currently available in the game, now. I suggested a quality of life change that I think would benefit and not hurt the game in a #somechanges environment.

But to your point. My 'Options" of leveling 4 Druids to 60 (Moonkin, Bear-Tank, Kitty-DPS, Resto) for Pve… and 4 more Druids (Moonkin, Feral flag runner, Feral kitty dps, Resto) for PvP seems like overkill. I get the idea of ‘choosing’ and ‘opportunity cost’ but I fail to see how having 2 options PvP spec and PvE spec is a bad thing. Or even that it should not be done.

As this is not the primary point of this forum I’m still just trying to get an actual answer in positive as to how she thinks it destroys anything.

Make it cost between 100g - 500g
Make it only possible to change from your class trainer (travel time required)
and make the cost of ‘respec’ that 2nd talent page independent of 1st so that you could get to 50g per respect if you can’t settle on just two possibilities. If we are not doing #nochanges IMO this is a fairly safe mild change that is not nearly as bad as boosting XP rates or introducing summoning stones etc.

Hardcore Classic+ ANND I’ll never play another game ever. Please let it happen Blizzard.

Sorry, calling bull.
Flipping a switch does not transform a player into a capable healer or tank. Nor does it imbue their gear with the proper attributes for the role. Ask a few retailers how it has played out there. If a hybrid class wants to switch roles, they need only swap gear and they have a large part of the attributes needed for the alternate role. Not “optimal”, but the role is there to be performed without a switch that changes your entire talent build for free and instantaneously.

Pay the money to your trainer or level an alt to perform that role.

An off spec is something you perform with the build you chose, not a swap of your entire build.

It directly impacts the entire point of character build as it relates to their identity. It cheapens the way choices should matter.

Only if the issues with world buffs, dungeon boosting/mage farming, and bots are addressed. If they’re not addressed then it’s not worth it. If they are addressed I think it would be a great experience.

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Nope, I understood it quite well.
You are simply wrong, and history has shown you to be wrong. Try again.

edit: Oh look, you removed your post. :roll_eyes:

Sorry, calling bull.
Flipping a switch does not transform a player into a capable healer or tank. Nor does it imbue their gear with the proper attributes for the role. Ask a few retailers how it has played out there. If a hybrid class wants to switch roles, they need only swap gear and they have a large part of the attributes needed for the alternate role. Not “optimal”, but the role is there to be performed without a switch that changes your entire talent build for free and instantaneously.

Pay the money to your trainer or level an alt to perform that role.

Such ignorance. u didnt even understand what i said in my post so there no reason to entertain this conversation anymore. it is true what they say about wow forum posters. LOL

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Gee, 3-post alt is bowing out. The forums are diminished. Abloo bloo

My god, I played a druid quite extensively. If you could not figure out how to play the class correctly without leveling 4 of them… damn son. A druid? You had issues playing a DRUID with a single build? Ugh.

You clearly do not want just to fill a role, you want access to everything to play each role optimally, at the flip of a free switch. Gonna go ahead and call that entitlement. The largest part of a druid’s ability to perform different roles is the gear they carry. You cannot be happy with the fact that your class can perform all of those roles capably with a simple gear swap? (a nod to the chicken, which is a gimmick at best)

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So you’re into RP…

And are a purist…

This may in large part be true for some classes but specifically for druid it IS NOT true. I know as a competitive PvP player and in a top 5 guild on my server Whitemane that PvP was unwinnable with out bear charge insect swarm and +crit chance for moonfire (these are all from independent trees in talent)

If you are not in your optimal build while ranking in PvP… you don’t get invited… you don’t get kills (you die) and you don’t win any awards for being ‘mediocre’ at everything when everyone else is in their ideal build. IMO Duel Talent is a MUST for any sort of #somechanges version of the game. every bit as important as ‘removing world buffs’ and revamping some form of honor decay reduction or ‘pause’ option for rank 14 :slight_smile:
And yes I would be completely happy with a FOREVER server that has #nochanges. I would prefer that as I’m sure you would agree that to be the BEST choice… but if they make SOME alterations I want my Dual Talent :stuck_out_tongue:

Was making an extreme example to prove my point. Not every class is as needy of Dual talent as the Druid.

Also, I will most likely level a 2nd druid once I get my alts established to experience Feral. Prolly only gonna rank or PvP with one and use the other to farm / go ham in PvE. I’ll be leading a guild so having a good alt toon that can fill in as main tank is probably prudence.

then stay on your vanilla server. We will enjoy classic, and possibly classic +

Who in their right mind thinks if you want to play more than one spec or both PvP and PvE you should just make a double of the same class? Did you even play classic? How long did you last?

my friend has 3 druids

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Playing classic without going r14 is inting

Your friend is a psychopath :joy:

never. vanilla is trash