How many characters can we create in Classic?

[Zarriya-zuljin (Zarriya)]

Great News!!

[Dawnspirit-wyrmrest-accord]

It’s actually more effort to port the modern client to use older models and animations. So your claim does not bolster your argument.

This specific claim is actually untrue. Art assets such as models and animations are kept in a database, to use one you simply have to point the code at the correct database and location.

To use both, you now have clients trying to receive assets from 2 different locations to display what is happening in game. This means adding in a toggle function, which is additional work from having it pull from one location.

The reason why the toggle doesn’t work in modern wow is because the old models don’t work with the new animations, because the new animations use a different skeleton then the old models.

[Mogar-stormrage (Mogar)]

Woulda swore this thread was about character slots…

[Eloraell-moon-guard]

Please indicate where I claimed expertise.
I won’t hold my breath.

Here.

It’s actually more effort to port the modern client to use older models and animations. So your claim does not bolster your argument.

Here.

The only extra effort involved is already being undertaken by, and I know this will be a shocker, porting the old models/animations into the new client. You know, where the existing updated models currently work.

The bit you’re not accounting for is rig interactions. Having to develop them to work together.

[Notmytank-kiljaeden-322817]

And, praytell, where do I say I’m an expert?
Stating facts does not imply I am a grand-wizard of game development.

[Notmytank-kiljaeden-322817]

The bit you’re not accounting for is rig interactions. Having to develop them to work together.

I’m sorry, is WoW P2P?
No? You mean there is a server that we are all connecting to, independently? One which processes all of the information and sends appropriate data back to the client?

[Eloraell-moon-guard]

You stated what you think are facts, as if they were facts. Implying you knew what you were talking about, while revealing you did now.

[Notmytank-kiljaeden-322817]

you think are facts

If this is the line of reasoning you use, then you should evaluate your own claims with the same tinted lenses.

[Eloraell-moon-guard]

If this is the line of reasoning you use, then you should evaluate your own claims with the same tinted lenses.

As I’m a software developer who has done work with Unity 3D modelling, I think I’ve got a decent grasp of the level of effort.

[Nightsëa-nemesis (Nightsëa)]

Shhhhh hey! do not spend next blue post with graphics

[Notmytank-kiljaeden-322817]

As I’m a software developer who has done work with Unity 3D modelling, I think I’ve got a decent grasp of the level of effort.

Great, and I’ve painted on canvas before, I think I have a decent grasp of the level of effort involved.

Except I couldn’t tell you how to produce a Van Gogh.

Again though, I’m not arguing the difficulty of producing the models. Simply your statement that it would be far too much effort to have the ability to use 2 different model sets.

[Eloraell-moon-guard]

Again though, I’m not arguing the difficulty of producing the models. Simply your statement that it would be far too much effort to have the ability to use 2 different model sets.

Again, the difficulty is not in producing the models themselves. That’s a fixed cost because the new models/rigs exist, and the old models/rigs have to be reintegrated either way.

The extra cost that you have no idea about is the rig interactions of having one client using the Modern Rig vs another client using the Classic Rig.

[Notmytank-kiljaeden-322817]

The extra cost that you have no idea about is the rig interactions of having one client using the Modern Rig vs another client using the Classic Rig.

It is my understanding that the client is communicating with the server, not client to client. It’s likely my lack of understanding (as I have never claimed to be an expert) but If you could provide an explanation as to why the client would have to deal with modern vs classic?

[Eloraell-moon-guard]

The exact positions of things like weapons and arms on one character waving them around on one rig, would be in a different position when viewed on the other character. Depending on how their rig components transfer information, a sword’s position when in the hand on one rig, may appear to be floating a few inches above the other version of the rig’s hand, if the sword’s position is independently transmitted.

Given Blizzard’s complete lack of direct contact interactions (handshakes etc), they may have less work, but there’s still work that needs to be done to make it not look absurd.

[Neapally-dalaran]

well, this is good info, however, A beta release date would be nice, or how classic alpha ended (today? yesterday) would have been better. I think the main reason we are not getting info is that classic will be doing better than BFA

[Mevinarn-area-52]

In WoW Classic, you’ll have the following character limits per WoW account:

• A maximum of 10 characters per WoW Classic realm
• A maximum of 50 characters across all of the WoW Classic realms in your region
• Only one faction per realm on PvP realms
• No overlap or regard with the character limits in Battle for Azeroth

You’ll be able to have up to 50 Battle for Azeroth characters and up to 50 WoW Classic characters at the same time.

That is awesome to hear, was assuming the PVP one would be there but wasn’t expecting to have another full set of 50character slots for the account since it was tied to the retail sub last we heard.

[Desodeleter-medivh (Desodeleter)]

@Uzai-azgalor

Like everything else that violates the rules, they will probably enforce this in a way that minimizes pain for them and maximizes fun for players.

From an RP perspective, cross faction business dealings make a lot of sense, as long as it doesn’t interfere in the war. For example, making a trade deal for resources that are imbalanced between factions makes sense in RP and in-game.

But colluding to help a raid of the opposite faction win a world boss against your own faction, or colluding to corpse camp players for devilsaur leather should get your account insta-banned.

Personally, I plan to have friends on horde, and I’d like to not get banned for hanging out with them (in non-exploitive ways).

You actually expect blizzard to monitor people using b.net chat to work as spies for the opposite faction? How would they even do that? Seems invasive and there is no way they have to man power to support that. People are going to do it occasionally and there’s not much to be done about it.

And if they were actually worried about something being done about it they could use more covert options like a good old phone call and have their “spy” be a rogue/druid stealthing around. Accusing players of collusion and getting blizzard to care? GL

[Laeric-wyrmrest-accord]

Fine but if you guys aren’t using a crapload of realms like you are on live, I expect the 10 characters per realm limit to be lifted. At least for RP realms.

[Silenttwist-area-52]

50 char, wow that is way to any for a person to have. Do you think the player will actually play all those chars, no they will not. Hell, I don’t even have more than 10 char on 2 realm and still can’t play them all. Don’t know why they are allowing this to begin with. Oh wait, because I don’t play WoW 16hrs a day 7 days a week like most of you guys do.

[Tyzka-shadowmoon]

Or gasp they could just restrict you from messaging a player on bnet that is the opposite faction. Kinda like they do in hearthstone if you’re friends with your opponent on the ladder you cannot message them.