I wouldn’t say a liar outright, but definitely someone who doesn’t read other people’s posts.
Nah, with how often he blatantly claims I said something completely different from what I actually said, and how he never ever backs those claims up; he’s a deliberate liar flinging mud.
No, he’s blaming you for me calling tanks bad dps.
That is what we normal people call a lie. One day blood could dps, the next it couldn’t. That isn’t the spec staying the same. Your echo chamber can’t hide your lies.
Its not some its the vast majority from what it seems, don’t get me wrong melee survival is fun but they clearly don’t know what to do with the class, look at shadowlands changes for survival so far.
I say its the vast majority because you can just look at the hunter forum right now and most of the posts are remove melee survival and bring back ranged, or 4th spec etc. So it is obvious many people are not happy with melee and wish ranged back.
Ive seen you on hunter forums a few times opposing people that play hunter and it just seems like you are a troll or something. Maybe you just like to play devils advocate and argue with other people for the fun of it.
Rexxar is called beastmaster in lore, I only assumed because most if not all characters in game are part of a class or spec that the player can play. Rexxar is probably the only notable hunter character hunters have so it would stand to reason people would want to dual wield like him.
Either way I appreciate your response and thanks for clarifying who Rexxar was and his title in warcraft, im not being sarcastic I actually appreciate your response.
Do you understand the difference between role and spec?
Blood in MoP still had Death Strike, still had Heart Strike, still had Dancing Rune Weapon, still had the same slew of baseline DK abilities. The spec itself, the passives, abilities, etc. changed very little from WotLK to Cata and MoP.
Saying that the Blood spec itself was pretty much the same is not the same thing as saying that tanking and melee DPSing are the same. Do you not understand this?
Well its alpha, not everyone has their change done. I dont feel SV needs any changes, it only needs help on “Numbers” and probably 2-3 azerite turned into a passive / talent.
Its a quick conclusion. There’s a saying that the minority that complains will be the loudest of all. I wouldnt even use official forums as a reference for anything really.
Anyone that disagrees is a troll nowadays. Thats how modern forums work. Im not against a 4th spec using the old version, but Im being realistic that its not a valid solution nor would it ever be the same as what it was. I have work / personal experience with those arguments, but people are quick to use emotion to deny anything. Though you could say it comes down to personal opinion vs other’s personal opinion.
Im fairly against people manipulating data or hand picking them to prove a point, I call them out on it… they hate it. See it how you want, but I’ll keep pointing out their ********** , ahem. Much like all the “famous” Facebook researches saying essential oil heals anything. 
Yea, they can be referred to a class / spec we know, I mean all class/spec are from a hero somewhat. We’re restricted to a mechanic, but the lore characters aren’t. I get what you mean, but Id say right now the issue is our spec names. The specs could stay the same but simply switch the two names and it would fit more, but the Beast Master we (the players) all know of, is really tied to that style of hunter we have ingame atm. (Ranged with bow + heavy focus on pet) I heard / read something (need to confirm) that Blizzard was changing the beastmaster part of Rexxar to make it tied more with Survival.
You are arguing with the LVL 58 Death Knight of the hunters (See Nixxiom videos for reference) Its a waste of time.
Have someone explain to you how playing as a dps versus playing as a tank are vastly different. The DK changes were actually greater, because they completely lost the ability to dps on blood. SV didn’t lose it’s role.
You do realize there is a vast difference between ranged dps and melee dps right?
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- Going from Ranged DPS to Melee DPS is a role change. Again, anyone whose raided knows how different the two are in playstyle, how they handle raid mechanics, their responsibilities during encounters, etc… It’s why a raid can’t just stack all ranged DPS or all melee DPS.
- Blood didn’t lose its only role like Survival did; Blood could perform as two roles in WotLK and lost one of them when all specs were brought in line to be able to perform only one role. It was brought in line with everyone else.
- Survival’s kit itself was completely change, including losing many baseline Hunter abilities, while Blood retained almost its entire kit.
These things are not difficult to understand.
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Just as much as passing from Tank to DPS or vice versa.
Just as much as having the whole core mechanic changed with your class.
No one saying it isn’t a big change, people saying its A change just like any other big change. But no, you have folks playing im the bigger victim so my change was bigger than theirs.
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And neither of those things happened with Blood Death Knights. They didn’t go from DPS to Tank. They went from DPS/Tank to Tank. They didn’t lose their core mechanics; blood themed attacks and abilities, runes, runic power, rune weapons, etc. were retained. Survival did not retain its ranged weapon though.
And those claims are being backed up with logic and data. Again, you’re just trying to claim that all changes are equal, and that therefore Ranged Survival being deleted in Legion is perfectly ok because Death Knights had their specs focused in on one role just like everybody else did back in Cataclysm.
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It’s quite telling that you’re actually trying to argue that completely losing the ability to dps in a spec is a smaller change than going from ranged to melee… That’s one of the dumbest things ever said on these forums, and that’s saying something.
Apparently you don’t know there is a vast difference between dps and tanking.
It’s Anti-Melee that don’t understand “Survival” and it’s survive in the wild made you a Primal or Pathfinder (whatever u call it). Take a look at African and Australian, some of those tribes use spears as weapon, throwing tools, crafting traps, protect territories, and pray on for meals. Ofc, they still use range weapons and not much using it. Am sure they can track down on murders. When they caught murder… what they do with murder? they’ll thrust the spear, throw the spear and etc for justice.
If old range SV get back for 4th spec then need new name… Shadowhunt or etc that do with magical dmg dealer.
However, I know what is Blizz think for hunter and refused add 4th spec for hunter. It’s only players’ personal that don’t like melee in hunter’s spec and then they should quit or play other classes imo. Add 4th spec will not going to happen and if did then melee spec will be untouch.
Blizz did great job on Survival and I prided on them. It’s perfect fit the title of the spec. Now that are Melee Survival and that can use pocket range weapons. Keep it up Blizz and I’ll keep cheering. 
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Is there something you don’t understand about the fact that Blood didn’t go from melee DPS to tank, but that they went from melee DPS and tank to just tank? Their one spec could do two roles, and they lost the ability to do one of those roles. But they still retained the other role they could perform, and they retained the vast majority of their abilities/passives/etc… Survival could only perform one role, and it lost that only role, and it was replaced by a new spec that was a completely new role that it never performed.
At most, Blood DK’s losing DPS is half of what happened to Survival.
There is, but that is irrelevant. Again, Blood DKs could already tank, so they weren’t changing roles like SV did. They just had their role focused
Of ranged Survival is returned then melee SV should get the new name. What about ‘survivability’ is emphasized by a spec that charges into melee range of the enemy rather than attacking from a distance?
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You know the most amusing part of this argument is that it implies that blood DKs and tanks in general for that matter do 0 dps and have no ability to damage anything.
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The most amusing part is you’re so bad at this game you don’t get the fundamental difference between playing a tank as opposed to a dps.
SV didn’t change roles, it was dps before the change and dps after the change. There are only three roles buttercup, tank, dps, and healer.
No, see I know the difference, but since you seem so intent on trolling, calling tanks bad dps seems to get you all in a tizzy. I mean at a very, very, very base surface level it’s true. Obviously there are fundamental differences when you drill down even slightly.
So that’s not you trying to explain that tanks are just melee dps? Someone else logged into your account and tried making that idiotic argument?