I think the biggest difference between DKs losing their 3 tank specs and hunter is the time investment. DK spent only 1 xpac with 3 tank options, while SV was ranged for over a decade, and 8 years with the explosive shot based spec. Essentially my fav spec that I spent a majority of my time in wow playing for a decade was forcibly changed because some dev thought it would be “an intriguing option” for new players.
I can see warlocks being upset, but they removed meta in order to add an entire new demon-based class. I don’t see any new archer class shooting fire and shadow arrows anywhere.
It’s amazing watching the delusional RSV group try to argue that a tank and melee dps are the same role and not a drastic change… And you wonder why no one takes you seriously.
It is the same case for nearly all class. They all had a change. Some only had slight changes but they all did. It wasn’t as popular as claimed, it was loved yes… due to being closest thing of archer fantasy, but you know that whole “explosive shot base” is still in the game as Aimed shot - LNL . Similar, not the same since you have to cast aim shot and thats the one thing old SV doesn’t want, casting.
Most certainly won’t be any either, unless some exotic ammo comes back in MM… maybe some Tinker ish class using guns.
I could see that - only having FDK tank for 2 years, and knowing that it was kinda borked the entire time, it didn’t hurt as much having it taken away. “We are eliminating these options because they are impossible to balance and we want to focus on making 3 good single purpose specs” is also entirely different from “Some players feel that these specs don’t have enough differentiation and we want to spice things up”.
I recognize that they aren’t the same role, but what you don’t seem to recognize is that they were both roles that the DK specs already had. Again, DKs weren’t changed from their one role to a new role that they never occupied. Their specs could both tank and DPS, so when Blizzard was making every spec one role (Tank, healer, rdps, mdps) they focused DK specs into either tank or dps.
Again, the specs themselves stayed pretty much the same. It was a matter of focusing the specs into one of the two roles they could already fill. The same can’t be said for Survival; it was a ranged DPS with the same kind of playstyle for years, and then all of a sudden that playstyle was stripped away completely and replaced with a melee dps spec that contained none of SV’s signature shots or passives. That is a much bigger change.
Melee DPS is a very different role from ranged DPS. Anyone whose raided sufficiently knows this very well. Their roles in raid are different, especially when handling raid mechanics.
I don’t know why we can’t all just recognize that the scope of both RSV > MSV AND Wrath DK > Cata DK are very similar, and far more comprehensive than any reworks other classes or specs have received over the years.
Because they aren’t very similar. They are similar in some aspects, but DKs didn’t really change all that much in terms of their abilities, passives, etc… They only changed in that their specs were focused in on either specializing in tanking or DPS.
Survival was gutted of all of its defining abilities save for traps, and replaced with a spec that played completely differently with all new abilities. It would be like if the Frost spec for DKs was changed to be identical to Frost spec for Mages.
Seriously. I looked over your posting history. Hundreds of posts. Every single post is a troll. I couldn’t find one constructive post. It’s not even limited to the Hunter forums. You’re just here to get a rise out of people. Fantastic hobby you have.
First, it was I didn’t post anything helpful. Which by the way, that was like 4 or 5 from the top… Second, it’s grats I found one. I could post more, but you’ll just lie again or continue to move the goal posts.
It must hurt to be so mad that I don’t agree with you over SV that you resort to just flat up lying to try to win forum points…
We either need a 4th spec thats the old survival hunter and call it something else or just bring back ranged survival. Its obvious people hate the new survival and miss ranged.
Personally im fine with melee, I do miss ranged survival but at the same time melee is kind of fun, I would make due with a 4th spec if they would ever do one.
You know what? Now that I think of it Rexxar is a beastmaster hunter (Look at his wiki/lore) wouldn’t it be better to bring back ranged survival and make bm melee with dual wield? I feel like it would feel much more fluid as bm is basically a melee class anyway with instant cast spells. If all else fails they could give us a 4th spec and make bm melee giving us 2 ranged and 2 melee that would effectively balance it out.
Its obvious some people hate the decision blizzard took with survival and miss the old ranged spec. -Fixed
Rexxar is simply Rexxar, he isn’t a class, he isn’t a spec. He’s himself. The class / spec were added as a game mechanic. The class term is often a “job title” in warcraft. You could say somewhat Rexxar is a hunter, but thats just the life style he has.