How long are we going to argue over Msv and Rsv

[Spinnerdh-the-underbog]

@Graiver-runetotem

Before the legion no one here was crusading to drastically change a spec into melee.

People were actually. It just wasn’t as common because most people understood that it would never happen because Hunter was a ranged class.

@Graiver-runetotem

We derail every. Single. Topic. What are we even arguing any more what does it matter.

From what I’ve seen the only topics that contain this discussion are topics that are about Survival. Not every single thread. As for why we are ‘arguing’, it is because there are trolls on the forum (such as Azagorod) who, without reason, oppose bringing ranged SV back as a forth spec, and deride anyone who wants it returned. That’s the only real argument here: sensible gameplay feedback about returning a deleted spec versus senseless derision against people who want said spec returned.

@Graiver-runetotem

I just want people to start focusing on constructive criticism and improvements for shadowlands.

There will always be an excuse to not talk about ranged SV. There was a troll a while back demanding people stop talking about it because it wouldn’t come back in Shadowlands. My response to them was the following:

@Spinnerdh-the-underbog

Why? To prevent people from giving feedback? You’ll just make up more excuses for every other time too.

Early expansion: “Shut up about X! The expansion just started so no changes are coming!”
Mid expansion: “Shut up about X! It’s the middle of the expansion and they aren’t thinking about that!”
Late expansion: “Shut up about X! They aren’t in the changes phase yet!”
Alpha: “Shut up about X! If Blizzard wants to change X they will say so!”
Beta: “Shut up about X! It isn’t Alpha anymore so there won’t be any more big changes!”
Pre-Launch: “Shut up about X! It’s too late to change anything, the new xpac is already finalized!”

Sorry bud but it is always a good time to give feedback. Even if Blizzard won’t do anything about it in SL at this point, it is important to express what we think about the content they are putting out, rather than just shutting up about everything and never giving any feedback ever about anything.

Your post wasn’t as nearly as combative as the trolls, so don’t take the tone as being against you. I just wanted to express the same point I did here.

@Watermist-skywall

EDIT: the “RSV=caster” thing? Because RSV had some elemental-based damage? That’s not exactly accurate; a good portion of RSV’s damage was from poison. That’s more of the rogues’ thing. So you should be saying “RSV=rogues,” if you’re gonna use the caster argument too.

Assassination Rogues confirmed caster spec.