How does this make sense?

[Daenestra-arthas]

A warlock giving an opinion on mage is automatically invalid

[Logosh-bonechewer]

@Deckarcain-whisperwind

A good Fury warrior uses its nuke that kills someone in 1.8 seconds when the target cannot escape for that time.

What? I understand everyone is so excited about fury right now for some reason. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves here though. Fury ain’t deleting nobody is 2 seconds. Also, for the topic at hand. Mage mobility is nuts. I think it’s more nuts now than it has been in the past because it feels like frost mage has more than 2x root + the extra displacements.

I am beginning to (in my games) kill whatever the other caster is and leaving the mage alone. Sounds nuts I know, but it works for me. Quickly try to kill the other teamate then LOS the mage and let second wind heal up for a reset. Then go back in and kill the mage with heroic throws and wrecking throws. Done this multiple times. Doesn’t work everytime, but working a good portion of the time so far.

[Dilirius-area-52]

mage has been notoriously better than warlock in every single metric of every single variation of world of warcraft since the dawn of mage. its easier to play, easier to do damage, more cc, more damage, and its the only class that can exclusively play with just about anything and be met with insane success not to mention theyre immortal to the point where you just ignore them and tank the infinite damage they do because you have a higher chance of killing the partner dps.

[Ozimov-area-52]

@Nasrajin-sargeras

Mage isnt unhittable by melee, and it DOES have a very high skill cap. That doesn’t change the fact that when executed correctly a mage shouldnt die to melee ever.

I agree , not really arguing about a mage’s kit being naturally anti melee.

I just believe mages do need another minor damage nerf and an icd on rng roots but not to the point where they become weak.

There has to be specs that counter melee,and i know melee mains will cry about it the very same way a warlock cries about melee. However the reality is warlocks rely on proper play and their team to try and beat their counters, the very same logic should apply to melee when facing specs ( it’s basically just mage at this point) that truly gives them a hard time.

The game is so unbelievably skewed in melee’s favor that when even a single spec pops up to challenge their dominance everyone loses their minds and slurs start flying.

Us mere mortals ( non-mage casters) have to deal with so much crap and jump through many hoops to reach the base level that nearly every melee class starts on, i know you understand what i mean as a boomy main urself.

Edit: the game should be rock,paper,scissors, not rock> all and the biggest rock wins , with some scissor second class citizens as support.

[Kydrav-khadgar]

@Deckarcain-whisperwind

Bgs are not a 1vs1, the healer could be healing the Warrior, a friendly neighborhood Paladin might put Blessing of Spellwarding and Sac the Warrior. If Fury is enabled by their teammates it is god tier, they are out here hitting like a current content raid boss and mage is no tank.

This is the Arena Forums.

[Shamaniak-skullcrusher]

Oh, sorry ig.

[Shamaniak-skullcrusher]

@Ozimov-area-52

Us mere mortals ( non-mage casters) have to deal with so much crap and jump through many hoops to reach the base level that nearly every melee class starts on

This is true.

@Ozimov-area-52

The game is so unbelievably skewed in melee’s favor

This is not. It only seems that way pre-1800, because the barrier for entry on melee is “do you have a keyboard”.

[Deckarcain-whisperwind]

Thats been mentioned

[Luwuke-moon-guard]

@Deckarcain-whisperwind

but its burst or sustain easy to execute and is so high that some of those tools may go unused while getting kills is likely.

Everyone can do this up to a certain mmr

[Jethalex-azuresong]

@Nasrajin-sargeras

We. Are. Not. Talking. About. Bgs.

someone needs a forum break lul.

[Nasrajin-sargeras]

Is there a reason you go out your way to harass me in multiple threads?

[Swolé-emerald-dream]

Not true at all.

[Fluent-emerald-dream (Fluent)]

learning mage has been so cathartic for me, flawless victorying warriors 1v1 after over a decade of being bound to the inescapable priest wheelchair

[Ozimov-area-52]

@Shamaniak-skullcrusher

It only seems that way pre-1800

Im so tired of pretending this excuse is valid, could speak from personal experience 1.5k rating above that number you gave but that’s not gonna change opinions here anyway.

[Shamaniak-skullcrusher]

I played to only 2200 in dfs4 and saw half as many melee as i did at 1600. 5/6 matches at 1600 was double melee. Less than half were at 2200. I played as spriest too which is crazy awful playing into double melee. Not to mention in duelist teammates started creating gaps for me so it was less of an issue. Ive never heard any experienced glad level player say melee are dominant at their level. So i guess its a 3k+ issue youre talking about.

[Seratox-illidan]

@Gleyeardorix-area-52

So why does mage have 5 blinks again?
2 shimmer, alter, alter reset, displacement

Things like this are why I think Blizzard is balancing around RBGB going forward, not 3v3

[Kennie-malganis]

No? It’s PvE design bleeding over and not being properly compensated for and/or them just going into the whole “Clearly defined strengths and weaknesses” thing where they’re immune to melee but get crushed by sustained/reliable damage, purges, etc.

If they can’t find a reasonable knob for mobility then they’ll probably just further decrease their durability so mm goes back to killing them in one rapid fire.

[Seratox-illidan]

@Kennie-malganis

It’s PvE design bleeding over and not being properly compensated

Ok true that too.

[Exalter-malganis (Exalter)]

@Ozimov-area-52

could speak from personal experience 1.5k rating above that number you gave

So you have 3.3k xp but choose to hide on a level 11 to post? Interesting.

[Ethâne-thrall]

I’ve never wanted to see somebody lose their freedom of speech more than you