Pretty sure Dalaran has not been using volatile magics, certain not one create rifts in the fabric of reality. And they were actively stopping any Legion attempts at invasion. The blood elves gave the Legion the key to the backdoor.
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You are projecting hard.
This was never about High Elves to you hence your bad faith arguments and constant wanting to push the false belief that High Elves no longer exist.
This is you being bitter about Horde treatment. Yet instead of being angry at Blizzard youâre taking it on the Alliance. You know that Alliance wants High Elves and if they got it you would see it as yet another slight against the Horde.
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Not an hour ago Zerde was trying to spin the high elf collective as teary-eyed exiles (who abandoned the Alliance with the rest of their kingdom and only went crawling back after Lorâthemar gave them the boot). Now theyâre hardcore loyalists who never left the Alliance in the first place, never returned to QuelâThalas at all, and split on national policy about fifteen years before the âbloodâ elves were even a thing. Martyrdom or patriotism; a faction zealotâs most wretched fork in the road.
Itâs a truly bizarre reading. The blood elvesâ many and varied schemes to hoard arcane energies and supplement their addiction to the Sunwell were downright desperate attempts to keep the high elvesâ fallen culture alive.
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I think itâs mainly because a lot of horde players seem to be under the illusion that the alliance has it sooo good and everything about the faction is just super dandy.
Itâs why we often get these visceral and emotional responses to anything remotely concerning the alliance and the legitimate complaints people have
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Nope. I just got tired of the bad arguments and nasty treatment of players that donât want generic pretty elves with no twist by people who werenât happy that the high elves joined the horde in BC.
Also, you among with some of the other people who have popped up in the last month are like a laundry list of the stupidest headcanon arguments from before Blizz caved and gave alliance a high elf of their own.
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The heck, I never said this. The high elves were ALWAYS loyal to the Alliance. Alot of them were living outside of Quelâthalas at the time and were no longer allowed to return after what they did to those high elves who were in Silvermoon and exiled.
Or that most of them were always Alliance supporters and those in Quelâthalas were probably given the boot partial because of said support and their refusal to suck mana.
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Indeed.
I mentioned real issues about the Void Elf model and customization and he dismissed it immediately because in his eyes that is irrelevant as the Horde got it worse in his opinion.
Itâs downright criminal how Void Elves have so little customization and the only Void stuff they got is purple skin/turning purple and a tentacle thatâs tied to hair style. On an allied race that has extremely limited hair styles of which only 2 for females donât clip through our armor/clothes - Ponytail or Bald.
Blizzard did the bare minimum with Void Elves and have done nothing with them outside letting them not be an ugly blue/purple skin.
Which, Iâll add, rubbed Blizzard off the wrong way.
They wanted to create a new Super Elf to silence High Elf fans. Yet instead of being praised as geniuses for it they were met by angry Alliance players who asked for High Elf - not this new Elf that goes against all the excuses Blizzard made in the past against High Elves.
Blizzard releasing the other skin tones for Void Elves was them admitting defeat and abandoning Void Elves. Hence why theyâve gotten nothing since then.
This is Blizzard, mainly Ion, being petty at fans not loving their vision and still wanting High Elves whom Ion never understood the appeal for. As theyâre High Elves and not this super cool Elf his team created out of thin air at the end of Legion.
Hence why when asked about High Elves, Ion just cannot stop himself from being petty and mocking. As how DARE the players still want someting that doesnât fit his vision.
So, yeah. Void Elves arenât getting anything because of pettiness that could have been avoided by just adding High Elves while embracing the Void customizations for Void Elves.
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Kinda glad he had to eat crow eventually on his whole âthe Horde is waiting for youâ.
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I thought I read that the only reason why void elves happened was because some artist was doing it as a fan project on their own time, and had most of the assets done when it was shown off and the other devs loved it? And it inspired them to go on to make allied races as a concept to put it in.
Which cemented that Ion is openly Horde bias. It explains his extreme pettiness around High Elves and Void Elves.
If he wasnât overruled somewhere down the line the Alliance wouldnât have even gotten Void Elves which were made as Super Elves meant to mock High Elf fans. No doubt they were rushed in at the end of Legion and given the bare minimum because Ion and his team never wanted them. As more Elves existing on the Alliance is someting they were always against
Nightborne!? Look at poor Mechgnomes, they are utter atrocities. I truly believe that Blizz screwed us over with that race and they genuinely need to fix it.
Itâs absolutely bonkers to me. I just listed how they show up to rep the Alliance in almost every expac. Hell, they were allied with the Alliance in Vanilla with all of their lodges. Before Horde got Blood Elves.
While responding in this thread last night I was in Stormwind and saw multiple âHigh Elfâ Void Elf players. I decided to whisper one and compliment him, and mentioned I was on the forums arguing for more High Elf options. He basically said âHell yeah! Iâm always in support of getting more High Elf options! <3â And then we added each other on Bnet. I know this sounds like one of those âand then everyone clappedâ stories but itâs true haha.
Why does it matter? Why? Since I played WC3, read Tides of Darkness and Beyond the Dark Portal, since playing in TBC and Wrath and seeing High Elves still loyal to the Alliance, Iâve wanted to play one.
They donât need some twist, they donât need ANY more story reasons on why they become playable in some form. Just like Highmountain Tauren and Maghar Orcs werenât some cool twist, they were just more Orcs and Tauren.
It especially sucks because I feel like all of us who want High Elves want Horde to get more races like the Ogres, the Revantusk, the Taunka, or whatever else you guys would want.
If it feels or looks like weâre trying to steal a race from you, Iâm sorry, but weâre not. We consider them to have always been Alliance, lorewise they we Alliance first, regardless of what little details anyone wants to bring up against that, and gameplay wise theyâve been in the game since Vanilla, favoring Alliance before the Horde got Blood Elves. And have showed up in some patch in almost every expac to rep the Alliance.
I agree that Allied Races were poorly implemented in many ways. From Highmountain just being Tauren with Moose antlers that couldâve just been a horn option, to Lightforgred being Draenei with tattoo options. The Nightborne were of less quality than the NPCs, the Mechagnomes caused the entire Alliance the shudder at the same time, and the Void Elves were an underhanded âF Uâ to people who wanted High Elves as we have always known them. I would like it if they would just fix ALL of these issues in some form or another, including giving us some options like some face tattoos or an NPC thatâll change our racial name from Void to High (maybe weâll lose a raid tier over a word changing).
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Oh I believe that this happened. I remember I was in BFAâs Beta server and someone recognized me because I posted on the forums about wanting the high elves added in WoW. That was pretty lucky chance encounter because I only went on the beta server once or twice.
Itâs cute that you think insulting me somehow gives you merit. You, the one, who firmly believes High Elves no longer exist.
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You the person putting words I never said into my mouth.
Especially as you canât get past the truth that blood elves are high elves.
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Your own posts in these elf topics contradict you.
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And Iâm sorry. But you not liking what the story actually is doesnât change it. The high elves of the RTS joined the horde as Blood elves.
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No, stop. No one cares. Literally no one. We all know the history. When we say High Elves, we mean Alliance High Elves. Stop saying this nonsense. No one here genuinely doesnât know that Horde have Blood Elves. I really donât know what you try to achieve with this weird âgotchaâ.
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I think this is an unavoidable hurdle that everything always boils down to, due to the unfortunate fact that blood elves are the hordeâs most popular race. Despite them only supposed to be a theme inversion and outsider aesthetic, them being far and away the most-played gives a gigantic implication that itâs the only reason why a lot of people play horde, even if over the years thatâs been muddled with other reasons like racials, better grouping opportunities, and playerbase deflation putting a bigger squeeze on the alliance due to them having become smaller from the previously-mentioned reasons in the first place.
So I think it ends up giving this vibe of âif the alliance does get high elves, whatâs the point in playing the horde?â because if playing monster races for their own sake really was as popular as the faction makes it look, then worgen would be a higher slice of the alliance than they are now.
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Itâs just him being petty. He knows what we mean but he ignores the spirit of it and just parrots the samw pettiness of when Ion told Alliance players to roll Horde.
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You seem to not like the story, the huge part where Blizzard keeps giving us more and more High Elves almost every expansion, gameplay wise theyâre only missing their own city to be the Blood Elves full equals in game.
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