How do Retail Players feel about Classic Wrath?

Not happy about the dungeon finder situation with Wrath and there is a good chance I won’t be playing it for that reason. I’m not looking to build community or make friends. I’m 36 years old with a life, family, and career. I’m not looking for that type of experience at this point in my life as I value my time and like to just jump into something and then log.

Like I don’t understand why they are “catering” to the classic players in this one when the Wrath audience should be dramatically different from the Vanilla and BC audience. Generally speaking, the same type of person who loves Vanilla/BC is not the same type of person who loves Wrath. Remember, back then these same type of “classic lovers” used to call us Wrath babies – we are not the same audience, Blizzard.

I love Wrath because Wrath is all about player accessibility and convenience and ever since they first announced Vanilla Classic I have been waiting for Wrath Classic as that is the one for me. Wrath was the first game to “bring the player, not the class” while also promoting by that point, unparalleled solo friendly gameplay – the type of gameplay I enjoy which was a big part of my Wrath experience. If people want a hardcore RPG fantasy experience, play Vanilla/BC, leave Wrath alone and let us play it as it was.

I am fine if they wait to release dungeon finder for a period of time, but remember, dungeon finder existed for nearly 50% of the Wrath expansion. Most of my memories are queing up to random dungeons to earn currency/reputation, outside of PVP/battlegrounds. If they just release Wrath with no intention of ever having a dungeon finder… I’m going to have to pass, because that version of Wrath is not the Wrath we all experienced; it’s certainly not the Wrath I remember. Not the end of the world, retail is still here for me.

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I’d only play classic if WoD was the expansion. A lot of people hated WoD, but it was my first experience with WoW.

However I dislike the idea of “starting over from scratch” with an old version of the same game. But I’d try, for WoD. And only if that ever happens.

I think wotlk is vastly overrated.

The dungeons have horrible designs for half of what’s available (black morass is barf). Balance came late in the patch cycle and wasn’t even that great. Rep grinds were eyebleedingly long in some cases. The raid difficulty was pretty low for most of the xpac honestly. Wintergrasp heavily favors faction imbalance or defending after a certain point, especially that people know how to play it. Crafting was so so after first patch cycle.

The nostalgia is neat. The story was great. The dk class fantasy is definitely there.

The other issue is with such a condensed patch cycle, naxx is going to be boring a 2nd time around.

black morass is barf

That’s TBC

Rep grinds were eyebleedingly long in some cases

They’re all incredibly short aside from Argent Tourney, which doesn’t give any bis or anything, it’s just bad catchup gear, mounts, pets and BoA

Aside from that yeah agree. Sorry not trying to be overly combative, just think you may have mixed up part of that with TBC

Nope, classic Wrath is still too slow and boring for me. Also, no LFG…no thanks.

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It was a great expansion but I did it all, already. I don’t see a reason to do it again. I see a couple of drawbacks: 1. In classic, my server kind of died and I couldn’t find groups to play with. 2. Retail keeps me too busy with all the systems, so, no time for re-boot.

I was interested until I found out there would be no dungeon finder. Besides, playing wrath now would make it impossible to enjoy retail.

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I played Classic when it was just Wow.

It’s a lot like childhood. I have no desire to go back and live it again.

Especially since there are so many more conveniences now days (in LIFE and in Retail).

I’m not interested enough to level all over again. I tried to play classic and got to level 7 before I gave up and stayed in retail. I did it in classic and did not enjoy it so it felt like a wall this time. Never paying for a boost either. Paying to bypass a leveling system that they probably intentionally made crappy? No thanks way better things to do with my time and money.

Wrath had my best memories. With that being said I will not play wrath classic. Just like i didn’t play vanilla classic or tbc classic. I have my good memories in those games and replaying them to try to “re live” those memories is just not gonna be a thing. That’s just your rose tinted goggles trying to deceive you.

This. Also I feel like 90% of my great memories from wrath are from the guild i was with. Just wouldnt be the same

I played it when it was current content, just saying. The Sons of Hodir reputation grind puts anything from today to shame.

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I don’t believe it’s possible to do old heroic dungeons in chromie time, even if you are at the right level. At level 45 in chromie time the option to do Legion heroic dungeons is greyed out. Mousing over it tells you that “you must advance to a higher level to queue for this”, which is totally incorrect. So maybe they want to pretend they’re providing this content when it’s actually unavailable for queueing.

If they leave it alone and have it as it was, I would be on it in a heartbeat.

But I suspect they will have to put their dirty fingers on it with their typical excuses and screw it over like BC.

LEAVE. IT. ALONE.

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What did they do to bc? That’s right. Nothing. Stop whining about nothing

I remember loving just doing random VoA groups each week and pvping. Learning to raid.

When I think of how long everything takes, movement is slow, character progression is slow, leveling is slow, having to drink every few casts… idk. I’ll probably mess around here and there, but I definitely won’t be playing wotlk often. GDKP is stupid. Bots suck. Having to physically stand around and screech into the void to find a group sucks.

I much prefer QOL changes that were brought down the road.

I played classic to give it a shot and it just felt dated. I played vanilla starting in early 2006. Loved wow and still do. But I have no desire to go backwards. Besides the current playerbase is the second most toxic community in gaming slightly behind Fortnite. The people made vanilla tbc and wrath fun.

I can see you didn’t play it.

The micro transaction crap including boosting?
The cross-faction queing that gutted faction population since there was no reason to be alliance if you weren’t getting the shorter ques. While they were “testing it,” horde population increased while alliance plummeted.

Stick to what you know. Which looks to be nothing.

i didn’t get the classic hype at all. just didn’t appeal to me. why would i want to play wow before all the QOL stuff in retail got added?

“but the COMMUNITY” - i can safely say from the get-go, hand on my heart etc: from the outside, the classic community looked like a straight-up pile of toxicity. it was… whatever the opposite of an advertisement was. a cautionary tale?

why would i want to play a version of wow where i have to feed my damn pet every 15 minutes to stop it running away so that i can be stuck on a server with the kind of players who left foaming comments on wowhead about modern wow players being too incompetent to thrive in the HARDCORE CLASSIC RAID SCENE of MOLTEN CORE (cleared in what, 20 minutes after opening)?

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The fact that they’re overwriting all of TBC as progression to WotLK rather than at least hosting 1-2 servers is really sad for the people who actually enjoy it.

But they could’ve possibly found a way to make these old game modes work in retail. Have separate banks/ability sets/etc. for each expansion. How? Idk. I’m not a game dev.