I play wrath since release and I think I only had 30 to 40k total. I just get the gold of leveling up and then just raid log, I don’t have time for gold farming or swiping the credit card in gdkps
Gold farming? Dailies take an hourish and net you 600ish gold a day at this point.
I’ve seen a few Ulduar screenshots with pots over 900k gold.
So some people do get it legit…but those who openly blow 200k for an item…um not so sure.
But even ToC dailies, hypothetically, if you have 5 alts, it’s 1,000g/day for like 2 hours.
So, it is very possible for someone to really really invest into dailies and have 100k+.
I most certainly do not have energy nor time to do this. Sitting on 10-15k at most.
This is the point I think. 2 hours a day, every day, grinding Dailies for gold + the gold from leveling and you might have around ~150K - 200K in total gold at this point in Wrath. Now remove the gold from skill training all those characters + cold weather flying + max flying for all your toons, plus odds and ends and, I estimate, would leave you with around 120-140K gold in total. And that is not how the average player plays, so push that down to around 50-80K for the average player
This does not explain the masses of gold being thrown around right now. There is clearly lots of RMT gold in the system.
GDKP starts out small(ish). Over time it builds up. One of the best ways to make gold is GDKP and only minimum bid. At the end of the run the gold purse is divided. I made a lot that way. When I could finally bid on crap it wasn’t as in demand and I got it cheaper. I’ve run maybe 10 or so of them and haven’t come out anything under -2k from when I went in.
Making gold: Professions, loot everything and sell it, play the AH, sell dungeon runs, et cetera. The greatest answer is “don’t be lazy”.
RMT doesn’t create gold
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Yeah, the gold in the game is likely nothing to do with regular players, its most likely a combination of mass gold farming using very minmaxed methods (like the old stratholme boost) + the population of players that have disposable income as they are 30 years old now not 15 + seemingly a much smaller focus on removing gold farmers + bots from the game
No kidding. Nice deduction there sherlock. Gold farmers who are paid to sit in front of a screen for 18 hours a day, do create the gold. And they sell it to people. Gold Farmers are NOT standard players.
What next, will you strawman the discussion too?
Where do you think the RMT gold comes from? Obviously those people are doing things to make the gold. The same things everyone else can do. I’m pretty sure that there is a lot less RMT going on than most people think.
We are almost 5 months into Wrath. The 200k point would have been hit 2 months ago, and thats just on the main character of the account.
There is, you just got broke people that are mad.
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Gold farmers have always existed. If anything it’s better now than it was in 2009. The reason for there being more gold circulating in the economy isn’t the mage farmers running boosts, especially on a server with 30-40k people… It’s a natural consequence of servers being 5-10x as big as they were before and people in general being much more efficient with their farming.
NO sir, the average player is not going to sit in a grinding spot for 10-18 hours a day. RMT is happening and it is happening in larger amounts. The average player, even if they are just grinding, may spend a few hours doing it. That only constitutes a small fraction of the gold currently in the system.
Why anyone would sit there and try to excuse the RMT transactions and try to push it aside as not a problem is beyond me. You are sitting there actually making cover-up arguments to de-emphasize the problem.
You are in essence helping the gold farmers and giving the gold buyers a get-out-of-jail-free card here.
I think it’s a problem. I think it should be cracked down on.
But it’s simply not the reason there is so much gold in the economy because, relative to a server with 30-40k people on it, the gold generated from farmers just isn’t close to big enough to have a discernible effect.
Dailies will get you 600+ gold a day in an hourish.
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On just one character too
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In your average week without even trying I generate 500-1k gold easily just from a couple random dailies/quests/vendored items and gold looted from mobs. I may spend 100g of that on gold-sinks like repairs, reagents/Ah fees and the occasional skill up on an alt. So even as someone who farms very casually I’m generating a net surplus of a few hundred gold every week.
Now consider that I’m on the extreme low end of that because I rarely actively farm… and multiply by 30k. That’s where all the gold comes from. There just simply aren’t enough gold sinks relative to ways to generate gold, so the surplus and thus inflation increases every week. Over the course of months of years, you start to have a noticeable effect
Good thing there’s no RDF. That 23 gold would really wreck the economy!
You should tell all those DK bots leveling up in BGs so they can farm in Sholazar Basin, Storm Peaks, and OK to stop bothering then because there’s no buyers out there.
If you’re someone who just wants to play the game, I totally agree that you can get by with raiding, and some casual play. I don’t do much but raid, maybe level an alt occasionally, and do the daily heroic (until badges are no longer an issue). I have enough gold that I can play the game my way and be fine. I am, however, pretty decently priced out of a lot of stuff. Raid BoEs are basically no go, and if I ever wanted to be a buyer in a GDKP I think I’d struggle to compete. Even stuff like runed orbs are too rich for my blood in the sense that I can buy them, but they would largely wipe me out (albeit now price is reasonable enough).
If you are someone who wants to participate in GDKPs, buy BoEs, or whatever gold buying is likely where a lot of that is coming into play. It’s pretty niche in that regard. Granted there are also AH tycoons out there that make a lot of gold by doing their thing, but that doesn’t encompass everyone.