The best way to curate your forum experience right here. I use it liberally and I can say it’s made the place much better.
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We should. At this point I’m pretty sure we’re both just being rude and talking right past each other.
i definitely agree with this, like we see with unmoderated social media platforms that they become safe havens for the worst kinds of people, and letting that sort of thing fester here would have the same effect.
eh maybe i came across too pearl clutchy in my original response. i’m a bit wary of a company being too loose with how they differentiate legitimate criticism from incendiary language or trolling, because i don’t want people who want to make good faith feedback feel reluctant to post.
rereading your OP i actually do agree with it, i’ve just encountered (mostly) decent Remix feedback overall with a lot of hysterical but not outright abusive language, so i assumed we might have different standards for what deserves a ban
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A million thank yous!
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I say ban bootlickers who reinforce blizzards bad gaming practices by siding with them over everything like they are the daddy that raised you -oh i might be on to something here
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How about no
People are allowed to have opinions, and that entitles them to also be wrong.
On the broader topic:
While I disagree with human refuse who protect hatred and ignorance with “freedom of speech”, I likewise don’t trust lifetime politicians to navigate the nuance required to limit actual hate speech and blatant falsehoods and not to limit actual differing opinions.
Similarly, I don’t think blizzard is capable of automating (and let’s be honest, they will certainly need it to be automated) the handing out of infractions while interpreting intent, vocabulary, dialect, etc. in a Freeform text medium.
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Wow you spend a lot of time butt hurt me thinks. Time to go outside to play with the cats and or dogs take pictures and videos and start a FB or X page.
Some of us actually know people who work for Blizzard, and while we have no love for a huge corporation that doesn’t always treat their workers well, we do have love for the people who make the games, and sometimes we get irritated when we see them so casually and carelessly trash-talked on the forums by people who have never created anything worth sharing in their small, unhappy lives.
I wouldn’t throw down on the forums for Blizzard. But without the creatives who make the content that some people love to spit on, there’d be no game, and hence no forum. I’d throw down for the creatives. They just want to make people happy – even people who are congenitally incapable of enjoying themselves.
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complains about thing
proceeds to just casually do that thing, twice
At this point I’ll just need to rate the thread as gr8 b8.
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I’m sorry you don’t get it. I hope you were never a playground monitor. Not all behavior is the same, and not all people are similarly situated, and I’m sorry that I can’t fit this into a completely self-consistent code of conduct that would make sense to you, but I just can’t. Things are complicated. I can look down my nose at abusive forum trolls and trash talk them because they trash talked content creators without whom we’d have no game to play. Not everything is always okay or always not okay. Things can be super complicated, and I’m just going to have to let you misunderstand that.
And thats perfectly fair, you own your house. Blizzard does own these forums and they would be within their rights as well to make rules like that. People throwing insults should be banned and i believe is already against the tos. However if you were to throw someone out because they said they just dont like your food or that they dont like flower print wall paper and you threw them out that might draw some comparisons to being a dictator. However thats all still completely missing the point.
The forums are a place for people to have a discussion, whether if an individual wants to post about what they like, improvements they would like to see, or just plain want to say they think some aspect is just bad game design basically feedback. When you start to silence people because it looks bad on the people in charge, thats when it becomes comparable to a dictatorship.
The core point being that this kind of heavy handed moderation becomes trying to control the narriative. The dictator removes all that speaks out against them to create the image that the people are happy. Blizzard moderates the forums to make it look like the players have no complaints. Thats what I’m comparing.
Someone is completely within their privileges to say “I hate X thing, remove it from the game!” Or “this game mode is a waste of time!” They are not within their privleges to throw insults. They don’t need some big justification to have to say some aspect of the game sucks.
I find doomsayers to be incredibly annoying but I don’t think they should be silenced because I think they’re wrong. End of the day all it would accomplish is making blizzard look bad and make anyone say anything. But hey if everyone was too scared to say anything negative about the game Ion could get on camera and talk about how everyone loved shadowlands so they plan on making shadowlands 2 with the real mastermind behind the jailor, who manipulated the jailor into manipulating everyone else.
If we’re concerned about the people who make the game, can we ban people who use the term “content creator” to refer to streamers/youtubers, instead?
It’s an absurd term, and impressive (not in a good way) that streamers/youtubers have suckered people into using it.
The content creators are the people who make the games. Not the people who tape themselves while playing them.
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I wonder if these people are regulars at Massively OP. They seem to have a hate for Wow over there.
Complaining is fine as long as everyone shares the op’s opinion in praising WoW. Complaining is not fine, if you hold a different opinion and should receive a ban. 
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I mean nobody is getting mad at the people who make the content and do the actual work. Nobody. You need to get your facts straight, most people just hate the higher ups who actually make the calls for launches, short bug testing, falsified PTRs and hype, etc.
Nobody is belitting the model or artwork dudes, we are talking about middle/upper management who have lost touch and don’t know wtf they are doing/talking about. You know, the people who actually call the shots?
I mean you think the dude making all the class decisions has a 70 of each character and has done content on each? No shot, they have the resources to give themselves bis gear and see for themselves how each class performs and … they don’t.
Get real, frig off with your “ban all negative emotions” weird thread.
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I entirely understand that the complexity of differing opinions irritates people so much that they want top down enforcement to solve the problem for them.
And I’m glad it isn’t happening for them.
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See, I’m of two minds with this.
On the one hand, the doomsaying is tiresome; it’s people who keep complaining about how the game is dying and the devs are idiots and the writing is bad and on and on and on. It’s just the most useless navel gazing whining for the sake of emptying out your tear ducts.
On the other hand, Talking about the actual problems with the game in a constructive, honest manner is actually good because there are things that need to be improved and fixed in the game; Like right now in MoP there is content that isn’t scaling properly and as a result it becomes functionally impossible for players to handle.
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You went on a sever ad hominem attack before repeating statements that we have discussed before which are not at all definitive. The reason you engaged on that sever ad hominem attack was because of your own sever lack of confidence in your argument that follows. That’s the only reason anyone ever uses an ad hominem attack, to prop up a weak argument.
If you have a rational argument that can stand on its own, let’s see it. We won’t, because you don’t.
Oh, I would definitely find a way to link a (mostly) relevant song or a gif in there somewhere.