Hot Take: Ban Doomsayers

“This harmless thing annoys me personally so get rid of it” isn’t a viable suggestion in the context of a vastly diverse social environment you don’t personally control.

There are plenty of “yes man” types here to make a lot of it look hilariously phony already. :stuck_out_tongue:

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I understand not wanting to attack people themselves, but it’s fine to contest their values, skills and degree of dedication.
If the values are worthwhile then they would stand up to such scrutiny. If their skill is beyond reproach then it would speak for itself. If their dedication were beyond doubt’s shade it would go without saying.
Not criticizing these things, letting them be without question, not only leads more swiftly to their decline but speaks not to actual care for the people in question, but to indifference.

Maybe, but more likely they’ll just find somewhere else to vent their rage or some other thing upon which to fixate.
And it just wouldn’t happen in the first place because there’s tons of people that will hate-watch or hate-follow someone or something as evidenced by the mountains of people that sling feces every which way on Twitter.

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Personal attacks: Bad.

Criticisms, even scathing ones, about the state of the game: Good.

That’s all you had to say and this take gets infinite% better.

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Tbh you could also just close the tab/scroll away. I understand engaging just for fun, but if something really bothers you and it’s not that serious or impactful then you also need to learn how to ignore

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I think theres a big difference between criticism and hating blizz or the devs. The first should be encouraged as long as it’s actionable. If it’s just hating on it to hate that should probably be addressed. If it’s pure anger/hate/insults towards blizzard or the devs that just seem eh. But tbf I just got 24 hour silenced for saying something reasonable. So it’s not like blizzard actually thinks punishments out.

You ask too much!
TOO MUCH, I SAY!

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or just ignore the topics?

Sup nerds. How’s panda land treating you?

It’s hilarious to me, that there are people out there that despise WoW, like they hate Retail and MoP Remix to a worrying degree.

Yet, they’ll spend their free time on the World of Warcraft Forums bashing the game.

It’s just as bad as a Star Wars fan that hates the newest/most recent Star Wars stuff, yet they keep watching it and buying the merch, playing the games, etc.

Pick a lane!

If you hate it, learn self-control and walk away lol.

Nobody really cares about doomsayers, because they are here based on the fact they enjoy the product to begin with.

The doomsayers are literally paying to be here. They are contradicting themselves with their own wallets.

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You look like a Klingon! Sup Worf?

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I took a guess at your job, lol. How is this evidence of me not understanding game design? Dude, you are seriously one of the most delusional and egotistical posters on these forums. You have written novels of just utter nonsense.

I can tell you’re older, because you over estimate what you know, but your comments prove that it is you that are kind of clueless when it comes to gaming opinions.

I’d love to know what other games you play?

IT has been mismanaged, at the latest GDC they addmitted that SL was a big miss. Their sales numbers have been declining to the point they don’t even talk about box sales anymore.

I understand this problem extremely well. You act like you’re the only person in the world that knows how to code. The fact is, Blizzard doesn’t have the engineers it used to have that actually know how to fix problems with the actual code.

The bulk of their developers are just designers, they are mearly using the design tools that were built by the enginneers decades ago. Most of them don’t have a clue what is going on under the hood of the game.

Blizzard has had a massive problem attracting talent the last 10 years, good software engineers are not getting into the video game industry as well, they can make a lot more money in other places.

So, yeah, the game has been mismanaged a lot, because the people working on the game just lack experience and the talent the studio used to have.

Do you realize that early on, a lot of the hires for Blizzard were fans that pointed out bugs, offered suggestions on game design, wrote game guides, ect ect…

A good portion of the team that was hired after Vanilla launched came from the player base. Ion the lead on WoW was a raider and ran a website called Elitist Jerks, it is how he got a job at the company.

The guy that made the monk Chris Kalieki was hired during TBC because his game ideas got back to the team.

The problem with modern Blizzard, is the current team is too proud to read player feedback anymore, and they hire kids out of game design school that don’t have a lick of talent.

My friend, this is utter speculation here, you honestly have zero clue what is going on behind the scenes when it comes to this kind of stuff.

I can tell you that if you did a little bit of digging, you would realize that Blizzard doesn’t have the talent they used to have, that is why there are so many bugs now.

I’ve been playing video games since the mid 80s, I know a good game when I play one and a bad one when I play one. It doesn’t take some code genius to realize WoW has a lot of blunders when it comes to game design over the last 4 expansions, the developers have admitted right from their mouths.

You seriously need to check your ego too, no one cares that you worked at a computer company. That doesn’t make you some kind of coding genius. For all we know, you are some retired old salesman that can probably barely figure out how to turn your smart TV.

If you would like to provide evidence of what software you have worked on, I’m all ears. I’d love to see what games you shipped, what your role was on those teams.

If it was non game related, I’d love to see what software you worked on, and what your role was in the development of those projects.

Edit: I’d like to add one more thing here. If this kind of negligence was taking place at say your bank, wouldn’t you be up in arms about it? Imagine you going to withdraw funds from the ATM, but the entire system kept crashing because of coding mistakes by inexperienced coders. You would be up in arms. For some reason, gaming companies just get away with this crap all the time, because us players don’t hold them to account. We just keep buying this buggy, half-baked crap because they got us hooked.

I just get so tired of players like you rushing to the defense of a huge billion dollar company that refuses to pay well and invest properly into their projects.

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Nah, just mute threads you don’t like.

you can’t ban the doomsayers, they’re like, 80% of the playerbase!

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You should look up totalitarianism and tyranny it suits you well. Its a good thing you aren’t in charge of more than cleaning your room.

“If you don’t like it, leave,” is an amazing perspective on so many levels.

People will complain just to complain

You could give everyone:

Free BiS gear
40 unique mounts
4,000% XP boosts
11 battlegrounds
5 epic grounds
5 million gold
Free Stegosaurus sized AH mount
No pants
Tails for all races
Robot body type for all races
Body morph slider
17 new dance moves
A dual wielding chainsaw high elf class
2 dollar refund on Tuesdays
7000 GMs hired tomorrow
Plunderstorm PvE mode
Randomly selected for Warchief of the Day
Marriage in Warcraft
Player housing
Guild Housing
A few PvP servers
40 player sized mounts like a Battlecruiser
A blue/yellow dress to start arguments
Siege of Goldshire raid
Pickup truck mounts
More Surfing WQs (like Emerald Dream)
Personality stances from ESO
A rocket ship ride to the moon.

And people would say…ain’t got no content. Boring.

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Discernment is a good skill to develop

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So is clarity.

I mean it’s why I didn’t stay working at a gas station my whole life. The ability to see a situation is not right for me and remove myself, thus removing the problem, is a superpower. :slight_smile: