Alliance with half a clue about pvp are actively avoiding AV
Ziryus:Basic cause and effect which some people have a hard time understanding.
Like how Alliance started losing significantly more after Blizzard changed pre-mades and rankers left for other BGs to preserve HPH?
The argument that alliance have to premade to be able to beat horde pugs doesn’t really help your argument that the map is a non issue.
It’s a fact that the entire win/loss rate in AV is because of the map.
You use that word “fact” a lot. I don’t think it means what you think it means.
The argument that alliance have to premade to be able to beat horde pugs doesn’t really help your argument that the map is a non issue.
Theyre winning AVs now without premading…
your argument that the map is a non issue.
Never once said in any of my posts that the map wasn’t an issue. Only ever stated it wasn’t the issue.
Ziryus:your argument that the map is a non issue.
Gantrithor:Never once said in any of my posts that the map wasn’t an issue. Only ever stated it wasn’t the issue.
Also:
Alliance with half a clue about pvp are actively avoiding AV
I’m saying and continue to say that the map is not the primary or singular reason that Alliance loses in AV.
Then you’re guilty of perpetuating untruths.
Gantrithor:I’m saying and continue to say that the map is not the primary or singular reason that Alliance loses in AV.
Then you’re guilty of perpetuating untruths
Once again you demonstrate why blizzard is likely ignoring the subject at this point.
Keep in mind this was never an issue in original vanilla or private servers.
Also keep in mind it wasn’t changed till 2.4 when the way the BG was played changes.
TL;DR - Alliance are bad, and should feel bad about how they changed the AV meta. This is 100% our fault.
Ziryus:your argument that the map is a non issue.
Gantrithor:Never once said in any of my posts that the map wasn’t an issue. Only ever stated it wasn’t the issue.
Except it is, alliance do just fine in the other two BG’s so we know it’s not that alliance just suck at pvp. That leaves the map as the issue.
alliance do just fine in the other two BG’s so we know it’s not that alliance just suck at pvp.
You think they’d do just fine with a third of their team AFK, botting or leeching?
Except it is, alliance do just fine in the other two BG’s so we know it’s not that alliance just suck at pvp. That leaves the map as the issue.
Alliance with half a clue about pvp are actively avoiding AV
Ziryus:alliance do just fine in the other two BG’s so we know it’s not that alliance just suck at pvp.
You think they’d do just fine with a third of their team AFK, botting or leeching?
Right those are problems caused by the map.
If it was a systemic issue to alliance it would be happening in the other BG’s as well.
those are problems caused by the map.
[Citation Needed]
Ziryus:those are problems caused by the map.
[Citation Neede d]
You just explained it yourself
These are not general alliance issues they are specific to AV hence the issue is AV not alliance.
You just explained it yourself
Try again.
If it was a systemic issue to alliance it would be happening in the other BG’s as well.
The queues for the battlegrounds would seem to indicate that most of the alliance arent doing AV.
Ziryus:If it was a systemic issue to alliance it would be happening in the other BG’s as well.
The queues for the battlegrounds would seem to indicate that most of the alliance arent do ing AV.
Of course most alliance who are interested in good games are avoiding a broken map.
Shocking.
Of course most alliance who are interested in HPH are going to BGs where they can pre-made and PUG stomp.
This works as well.
Not really as alliance pugs do just fine in the other 2 BG’s vs horde pugs.
So once again it ends up being an AV specific issue.