Horde players showing up neutrally on Amirdrassil

Okay, that’s cool. Problem is that now it is currently necessary to help stop Fyrakk so Horde has a vested interest in helping also.

Also they were kind of responsible for the first one being destroyed so it is a show of good faith to help rebuild.

“Well I don’t care about Night elves”, if you care about not being the villainous faction then helping your former enemy to rebuild goes a long way to helping relations not fester.

So like the Shadowlands stuff? Easy-peasy, I gotchu covered and can explain why you might not have agreed to it, but you committed yourself anyway.

So if you did the night fae stuff, then every single interaction thereafter with Tyrande is really all your own fault. You swore an oath to the night fae. You even bonded your soul with one. Now you are eternally bound to do whatever they want, and they wanted you to help Tyrande. Maybe the next time you visit another plane of existence, don’t bond yourself with unnatural extradimentional spirit beings. It never ends well, and you really should have known better.

If you didn’t play as night fae? Well, same story really. You bonded with an extradimentional spiritual being, either a smurf angel, a fancy vampire or a necrosurgery-enhanced Super Scourge. And they decided you should really help this elf lady so she can help stop the other elf lady.

It’s all your own fault at the end of the day.

Stop binding your soul to inhuman extradimentional spirit things.

I’m sure for your average Night elf, those feelings of mistrust and even hatred are going to fester for some time. Just because the leaders say We’re forgive you doesn’t mean every Kaldorei will or has.

Especially as seen with the debuff horde players get about being watched closesly. The sentinels clearly don’t trust the horde player roam free without someone keeping an eye on them

I missed the part where we we’re supposed to give a damn about “good faith” with the Nelfs. We helped catch Sylvanas, we’re done now.

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The leaders of the Horde clearly felt otherwise.

Too bad they don’t feel it enough to stop the invasion on Ashenvale.

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To be fair, the other Horde leaders were intentionally left out of knowing about the feint. Though Baine did suspect the Horde’s army wasn’t actually going to Silithus, Saurfang still didn’t tell Baine even as Saurfang started the march.

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Usual writing by the same people who think that ignoring the Horde when they are used a foes for the Alliance is good writing.

Though, even so, if you want to go that route, Tyrande herself clearly finds the Horde in Amidrasil to be OK.

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To be truly fair, even for Saurfing that feint was not intended to end in the burning.

Wow, my guy. You are unpleasant.

Sorry I think I should care more about Horde interests. You know the faction that doesn’t treat me as kill on sight.

And that’s reflected by the Evil Eye debuff every Horde player gets when they visit the newly planted Tree.

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It was supposed to end with the death of Malfurion Stormrage and his failure gave her the pretext to burn the Tree.

Perhaps she knew he would fail to do so and left it in his hands for that reason.

Unfortunately there is unawareness even within the Horde that Saurfang didn’t intend for the burning, as Zekhan, Saurfang’s closest confidant in the end, said to Talanji in Shadows Rising:

    “Our high overlord who fell at the mak’gora to the Banshee Queen’s magic. He…he wasn’t perfect, he was a killer, I know that. Not just a killer. What he did to the elves, to their tree, that is something too big for me to judge.”

This is nothing but head-canon.

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One wonders why Blizzzard did this. Sadly, leaving open a bit more villain-batting is all to possible.

Doesn’t one of the extra materials say the original plan Sylvanas and Saurfang made was to invade the tree and use the population as hostages to weaken the link between night elves and the Alliance, eventually leading to the alliance disolving?

Yes, that was the lie Sylvanas finally sold Saurfang the plan on. But that was all done in a secret meeting that was never told to anyone else.

Only tangentially related, but I flew my tauren over to Gilneas on the PTR. The NPCs were friendly to me there, but we’ll have to see how it plays out on live. Wouldn’t mind more places that feel actually lived in with NPCs that accommodate both factions.

Tauren I don’t mind. They’re a good people overall. :bear:

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