I think you are right. I am just saying how mad I will be when he waltzes back in and is like,“oh hey guys don’t worry, I found the time to come save the day again. Also my wife is here also. Look at the babies we made while you were all dying from things I caused.”
As a player I’ll be pissed at Thrall ex machina. But as an rper i might be into it because then I can lead a group of extremists who disavow the New Horde’s call for peace in exchange for shock-and-awe terrorism.
Yeah that’s what I imagine. Undead Tauren, Elves, Trolls, humans, gnomes, worgen, Goblins, everything under the sun!
It was infuriating when I first began thinking about where the Sylvanas villainy arc was going to lead, now I’ve reached the stage of acceptance.
An all undead faction was discussed, I believe, as early as late Wrath. The primary obstacle is how they would level (If you don’t start them at a higher level) and how they would interface with the massive amount of legacy content designed around two factions.
It would almost have to be a “hero” (or anti-hero) faction, maybe?
Unlock, through some means, the scenario to create a new, lvl 120 Undead character, through which we see a living, breathing, brand new lvl 120 character fight, die and be raised. And, as I mentioned above, an optional questline for your established characters to run through the same scenario for a one-time-only free in-game faction change.
So, your character was alive during legacy stuff… and died during the Battle for Azeroth, which was always Sylvanas’ plan.
Just my thoughts.
Baine built a wall in front of mulgore then kicked out every Tauren who wanted revenge for said attack.
Taurajo is a terrible example to use.
As for the idea of a third faction… Blizzard is already having trouble balancing the two we have already with war mode being a complete disaster. Even if writing a third one in was feasible would they even do it?
Not really. Even by this post, it’s pretty clear that the loss bothers an awful lot of Horde players.
It seems to me that you may be lopping the people who are mad that innocents died with the Horde loyalists who can’t stand their faction to have a lose in the lore. People can have other reasons for being upset about Taurajo then it was just a loss.
That is like saying that the Alliance is just mad about the War of Thorns because it was a loss for the Alliance and not because of the terrible atrocity that it was.
Sure, but you’re kidding yourself if you think that a certain level of outrage doesn’t come from a group that isn’t used to losing suddenly being forced to take an extremely minor L.
And you’re going to tell me that alliance players weren’t mad when they found out they were losing Theramore?
Taurajo always baffles me when it comes up. Horde players who wave it around in the air with tearful faces never seem to also acknowledge that
But no. It’s this one (relatively) small loss that’s always brandished as a “Screw you, this one small loss justifies every act of hysterical genocide we want to commit” card.
How does Taurajo remotely compare with Theramore?
Oh yes. After an entire expansion where their defeats were front and center and their questing content was sharply curtailed and they were not allowed to fight back against their aggressors and their story was mostly used as a foil to describe the tension within the Horde and most of their characters were totally absent from a war that was killing them, the Alliance was very mad about losing Theramore. Because the Alliance has been very mad about systemically being used and defeated to tell the Horde story.
The Alliance is mad at Blizzard for crappy storytelling, for being denied equal treatment, for being deprived of attention from development and for the many, many robot cat moments.
The Horde is mad at the Alliance for losing a tiny village off-screen.
This is why I say that the Horde haven’t ever suffered a loss like the Alliance have. Only now are they starting to realize that Blizzard can treat them shoddily, too, and it’s shaking them to the point of making threads like these.
I’ve noticed over the years that while Alliance players have often been called crybabies by certain die-hard Horde fans, it’s typically those same die-hard Horde who screech and kick the most violently that the smallest inconvenience, the most fleeting wrinkle in their narrative, or the most mild discussion about the overall imbalance in the overarching story.
You are right. The Alliance need victories in the story. That they are deserved. By not doing so, Blizz has really spoilered the Horde loyalists.
However, I don’t think it is right to dismiss people for being upset about Taurajo just because some Horde players can’t take a loss or that the Alliance has suffered more. That does not negate what happened there or delegitimize how some of us feel about it.
I am honestly surprised Alliance players are not mad their only victory was this. They deserve a honorable victory in a battle. Not a ‘victory’ of massacring a village.
Oh, they are, trust me. The Alliance is mad at every conditional victory, because they’ve never been afforded an unconditional victory like the Horde has, just as the Horde has never suffered an unconditional defeat like the Alliance has.
And while I agree it’s wrong to dismiss people upset about Taurajo, I think it’s clear by the context who is upset that Taurajo was a massacre and who is upset that the Horde lost at all.
I mean… to be fair, Alliance get laughed at and blown off all the time for mentioning their losses in the story. Or they get shut down with “BUT TAURAJO.”
Like, yes, the loss of innocent life is a horrible thing and it drove some of my more compelling roleplay in that period? But it’s so exhausting when it’s wielded like a club by other people who really are just sore losers.
Yeah, I have seen the ones to tout Taurajo out into the conversations are the ones that care more about the Horde losing than what it was.
In game pollling in the form of player choice controlled content. Much like the decision tool help Saurfang or to tell on him with the result dictating content. Maybe You are right, maybe the vast majority of people do like to have someone change the identity of an identity driven game and just forget about the rp in MMORPG. What happens when blizz decides to swop races to different factions or erase one entirely from either faction just to be dramatic? Do we have a say? The Horde may have started as just a plot piece to contrast a two dimensional perception of right and wrong, good and bad but it has evolved. There are millions of us whom have dedicated a sizable portion of time and identity to this game…do we matter? I am a Horde player, saying that means something to me. Shouldn’t the game build on that versus distorting it? This is just my opinion, and to be honest, this post was meant to reach out to those who feel the same. Lol which is why I find it odd that alli alts are commenting…people who play both factions would not have a strong connection to either side. We can pretend like it’s possible for the sake of argument but it’s not. Since when is being sorta something cool lol. They are like that one guy that rocks both teams flags at the Superbowl…you think you are being evolved but in actuality you are incapable of picking a side. No one likes you lol
Dude.
It’s a game.
I hope one day we figure out how to make “yikes” a ten character statement.
big yikes.