Horde leaders power level

hopefully they put his mom so she can spank him into shape.

Thalyssra is weird to me because not once has she ever been displayed as weak, just not as strong as Jaina (whom is very broken).

Her biggest crimes was her showing interests in others application of magic, which I always found odd to use against her because it’s not like that’s been an uncommon thing in wow. A blood elf in Azshara noted that the highborne was using old outdated magic due to their isolation. Of course Thalyssra would be interested in a flying boat. How often would you use one under Suramar’s bubble?

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There is lore to be tied down there. Thrall went back in time dragon aspect book and saw his parents get murdered in front of him. He didn’t help as he didn’t want to change the timeline but it did scar him. Draka gave him a cold stare as she died, but I really do not think blizzard remembers. It would be great if they revisited it and gave my guy Thrall some peace.

He does get his powers back, actually.

Does he really?

Thread about it here.

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/thrall-got-his-mojo-back/600456

Thank you, this is good to hear.

He blasts the mawsworn with lightning when you show up to rescue him.

I heard a rumor that they did something to make Baine look less useless in the SL opening (the one where Jaina’s soloing everything in sight), but no details. Anyone got more on that?


First, her biggest crime was running away from Jaina. Fangirling her ship was just the cherry on top.

Second, you’re right that there’s nothing wrong with showing interest in someone else’s magic, but when you combine it with running away when that person threatens you, it paints a pretty clear picture of you not being on their level magically.

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It’s at the end of Maldraxxus questing I believe. You return to the Maw and get a quick cutscene of Baine yelling at a Forsworn before being shackled and dragged through a portal. You then pass by a bunch of Forsworn corpses and collect his mace, which has flavor text telling you how much of a baller he was about 10 seconds before you got there.

Riveting stuff. Otherwise, he still gets shanked in the Opening sequence and Thrall has to help you cure him before his soul is destroyed. He doesn’t really do much beside point the way to the next objective after that.

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They’re not that ill-defined. They’re powers from the Loa. Basically any of the Loa’s domains that she needs to call upon, she can. The winds of Pa’ku. The storm of Akunda. The ferocity of Gonk. (Great Loa, stupid name.) So on and so forth. Most of it’s characterized with golden glowing power because it is ultimately holy/sacred, though it’s also often shown as more druidic green energies.

Thalyssra seems knowledgeable rather than powerful. I don’t think she is a push over but her knowledge seems to carry her more than her power and it still ends up feeling she is somewhat outclassed on the hero stage when the Alliance is taken into account. I would actually say Occuleth is probably the larger threat. The crap he did with spatial distortion and his teleporting battle in the Suramar campaign was pretty cool. I mean the guy can literally manipulate space as a weapon.

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Thaly is powerful, but she’s more academic than practical. As a result, as you said, her strength lies in 10k years of study, but not necessarily power in the field. That might change over time, but even without Jaina’s insane power boosts she has a lot more in-the-field experience.

Occuleth is dangerous because he’s absurdly specialized. He’s taken a specific school of magical study to an absolute extreme. Rommath would also be powerful, if he could only get some damned screen time! The guy is conceptually the Jaina of Fire Magic, but he’s always sitting on his hands.

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big baller baine moments

I mean, Sylvanas was the most powerful Horde leader barring maybe Thalyssra, but Blizzard had to crap all over her character and randomly make her a villain.

We’re not allowed to have strong characters. Kael’thas? Randomly made a villain. Thrall? Loses his connection with the Elements because he feels bad. Sylvanas? Randomly made a villain. Talanji and Thalyssra? Oh, don’t worry, they’ll be pushed to the side soon so we can have more time for “Me StRoNg CuZ sMaSh!” people like Baine.

Sigh … the guy really needs some toughening up in SLs, and an extended “field trip” with his dad and/or Huln. Like, I cannot think of anything more insulting to self worth to be kidnapped … again … but this time just pooped out by your captor for being “worthless”. While Anduin is thankfully stuck in the damned tower, Baine needs to gain some internal balance and independence from him. Peace oriented is fine, but not knowing how and when to use force is not.

Have that growth culminate with him forging a new SLs/Torghast brand Bloodhoof Rune Spear.

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I thought that was Kael’thas?

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Kael’thas is not even remotely respectable though. Romath is at least a little like Namor.

https://i.imgur.com/qRm3amX.jpg

Anyone else miss when Thrall could summon a tornado big enough to chuck around an army of ogres even though he claimed that he was weakened by what was essentially a language barrier with the elements of Draenor?

And then they turned him into a hippie with an axe :expressionless:

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