Horde complaint = hotfix ally complaint = suck it

Prove me wrong.

AV Premade fix

Xrealm

2 massive game changes for the horde. No changes made for the massive imbalances that ally face or the faction imbalances

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Use of this meme should result in a perma-ban.

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Starting sentences with the word “imagine” is worse.
Prove me wrong!

Had to add that in after rereading what i posted.

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Phase 2 Honor degrade rate. Alliance whining.

AV premade fix. Alliance whining (you guys ditching 5-10 Alliance and leaving them stranded against a full Horde group)

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are horde pretending that this was done to help the alliance?

Wanna know what that accomplished? Now instead of losing in a group of 10 they can lose in a group of 40. That change 100% benefited the horde playerbase by taking away the one thing the alliance could do to succeed

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No, cuz in 30 minutes something else will set you off and you will start another thread like the entire forums is your own personal twitter.

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You need to evacuate the space in my head sometimes because Im thinking the same thing you are thinking but you usually beat me to the punch lol.

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that bit was fixed when they made games only start with 20 people. the premade “fix” was all horde whining.

:salt:

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i only complain about 1 thing in classic. its the one thing ruining the game.

Xrealm. Everything thats wrong with this game is stemming from the xrealm…

Vanilla PVP does not have the structure needed for xrealm

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The current issue is you have two factions trying to play two different games. Ally wants the 7min zerg PVE fest. Horde wants the PVP and objectives done for most fun/honor.

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Nope, the change happened because Allaince pugs were being left empty. Now they lose in a group of 40 but at least they can do SOME things before they lose.

Never would have fly’d to fix one thing and not the other and you know it.
You guys ditching pugs caused the changes.

-Will of the forsaken used to last longer. Alliance complaint = fixed.
-Frost effects weren’t broken by BoF. Alliance complaint = fixed.
-Paladins given hammer of wrath. Alliance complaint = eh… kinda fixed. I remember paladins complaining about lack of damage.
-Frost shock wasn’t on DR. Alliance complaint = fixed.
-Stormstrike was able to stack at one point. Alliance complaint = fixed.
-Alliance quests finished first and horde quests rushed out the door. Horde complaint = not fixed.
-Horde faction leaders all have an easy access backdoor that requires no exploits or terrain crawling. Horde complaint = not fixed. (Cairne is probably the hardest because you have to use an elevator before walking 100 feet to his front door)
-Living bomb could be cast on a target under divine intervention if it was used too early. Alliance complaint = fixed.

I could probably go on, but this is just on the surface of things I remember.

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P2 lasted 3 weeks it should have lasted months. Instead blizz released bgs early so you could pre made against pugs to pve your way to R14?

Not a ranker but a pretty huge one for allies.

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Imagine Horde Pug Honor Decay while their WSG Premades advance , talk about splitting a faction lol

Are you pretending your pugs weren’t complaining about how bad that was? Horde were already beating your premades because they gave up if the 7 min zerg failed and getting “free” wins from the handicapped pugs your premades pooed on.
You really think this was changed to “improve” Horde win rate in AV to 90%+? Alliance. Historically won this map. How did those allies overcome all these excuses? I mean map advantages and OP racials to win? You guys need to watch some old videos and make some adjustments.

I’ll tell you the samething I told Horde. You want a premade? Link a discord server at the start or the match. Players make the choice to coordinate and follow a strat. Make adjustments as needed.
This can be done in chat. Horde did it without discord.
Why can’t alliance? Your win rate might change if you change. Start with getting rid of the defeatist mentality.
To me it sounds like the in fighting is caused by too many people thinking they are fit to lead and won’t step back.
The mark of a good leader is knowing how and when to follow. Lead by example.
Lead, follow, or shutup and get out of the way.

Both sides can coordinate. Link a discord server at the start or use chat macros. It’s a matter of player engagement. On both sides.

Meanwhile, on Alliance…

How does faction imbalance impact alliance AV?

What imbalances do ally players have in AV.

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