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They broke premades⊠They implemented something that was not in the original classic WoW. Thatâs not a fix, thatâs a new feature.
I donât think premades were that big of an advantage to Alliance players. Maybe Alliance were just better PvPers or maybe the Horde wasnât trying hard enough or they gave up too easily.
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No, the matches have been turtling at the north side of the field of strife. Thatâs where the armies meet. At that point the horde can easily take SF, a bunch of LTs, and SHB. Then they farm until they can summon their ice lord and push north easily.
Itâs after a ton of games like that many alliance decided the game wasnât worth the time and instead queued for WSG and AB.
Right because when horde play defense they get a near 100% win rate even against premades, once again because of the map imbalance.
I know how the games play out now. I was talking about what caused the alliance boycott in TBC. Horde stacked at Galv in most of the games I was in before the boycott.
If there is no honor rewarded, expect wargames to be a ghost town.
Ahh yeah, they did that in TBC. I really donât want a repeat of that, it was toxic.
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I agree. But I also canât see much difference in what horde are doing now since it nets the same results.
This map is garbage and my guess is the players who defend it like the ridiculous win rate and want it to stay that way.
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Notice how itâs virtually only Horde players defending the state of AV, and all of them blame Alliance players.
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Notice how it is virtually only alliance players who think it is everything but themselves.
You realize in Vanilla people claimed the opposite right? That AV was favoured for the alliance and that horde was at a disadvantage.
Almost like itâs all crap and in your head
Uh huh. People have already said those serious about PvP donât queue for AV anymore, which makes the winrate even worse, but the reason they stopped queuing for it in the first place is the important factor.
The best players 15 years ago could still click and keyboard turn. What people 15 years ago thought doesnât have anything to do with the reality of today.
People in AV are just as stupid and whiny today as they were 15 years ago
And yet the average skill level of players is massively higher than it was 15 years ago, and the strategies are very much so known and tested. So itâs not hard for an advantage to make or break a battleground.
It has nothing to do with who is better because of the win, it has to do with the interests of the players in AV being different due to queue times.
Go watch an OCE player queue AV - the alliance still play like they did when alliance premades were a thing.
I think, most in AV, arenât really there for the PVP - theyâre there for the rep farm and what is optimal/easiest in their eyes around achieving that goal.
Except the Horde are willing to wait 2 hours in queue for a single game for⊠what reason?
The gear, same reason alliance are in there.
Then why are they trying so hard to win, instead of farming rep? Given that they have such a long queue, surely they should take advantage of the chance. Or is it that the average random Ally vs. Horde is heavily favoured in the Hordeâs case? If theyâre both there for the gear then what would cause the discrepancy in win rate?
Optimal rep for horde is summoning Ice Lord and securing the win.
Optimal rep for alliance - or rather the path of least resistance - is turtling a point and keeping an NPCâs dialogue open so they never escort druids to do mass turn ins.
The two work hand in hand, the horde are busy south escorting shamans while the alliance are turning in all of their rep up north. The alliance can AFK out to do it all over again while the horde are stuck in a 2 hour queue.
So for horde, the win is BiS rep and honor, for alliance it is not worth the effort.
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When is the last time u played AV? Horde do exactly thatâŠdrag the game out to squeeze every last drop of rep/honor.