Horde Can Finally Prove AV Is Balanced

Hmm… no if alliance could get a ~50% win rate in AV like they do in other BG’s that are mirrored more of them would be queuing for it.

Sorry but there’s no reason for alliance to queue into a BG that gives horde a massive advantage beyond the bare minimum to get rep.

If you don’t understand why good alliance pvpers are avoiding AV well that just shoots down your claim that horde are better than alliance at pvp right away.

AB is not mirrored.

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It’s very close to it, there are minor differences but nothing game changing like in AV.

So… they aren’t mirrored.

This is why Alliance can get to stables faster than Horde can get to farm (significant given the premise of the BG), Horde can get to BS from Farm faster than Alliance can from Stables and why even before AB was released Alliance were whining about the Iron Triangle.

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And horde can get to BS slightly faster.

These are not game breaking changes where one side of the map is dramatically different and gives a huge advantage to one side. As such mirrored is appropriate.

In what world do you live in that mirrored means something other than 1:1 ?

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/shrug if you don’t understand why a map like AB doesn’t give one side or the other a huge advantage but AV does, well that kind of just disproves the myth that horde are just better at pvp.

Alliance complaints about the Iron triangle say you’re wrong.

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Whelp keep pretending AV has no issues while enjoying your queue time :slight_smile:

Nope, still never made that claim. :man_shrugging:

You have this weird thing about repeatedly accusing people of things in the hope that it somehow becomes truth purely by the power of repetition.

The only way they would get more hph than the other 2 bgs is if there were no diminishing returns, and if horde allowed them to 5 minute race, which you yourself advised defense to prevent, while heavily supporting 1.12 AV.

No, the only “massive advantage” horde have is the lack of a worthy opponent.

Keep ignoring the pre-made situation and enjoy your win rate.

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You’ve made the claim multiple times that alliance in AV are bad. Yet AV draws from the same pool of players as the other BG’s. BG’s where alliance do just fine.

dRaMaTiC!

HuGe!

Pug vs pug alliance do fine in other BG’s.

Yes, because the good ones left for hph after getting their rep rewards.

Nope, still never made that claim.
Is there a language barrier you are stumbling over repeatedly?

No, they aren’t. And you have nothing to back your claim up. But that’s a false equivalence anyway.

You keep ignoring that Alliance, including yourself (links to your posts were provided), effectively had NO complaints about the AV map prior to Blizzard eliminating pre-mades.

WSG was available. WSG is a mirrored map as you said. Alliance did AV instead up until pre-mades got fixed and the zerg meta changed (due to higher HPH in WSG).

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Right and why did they leave? Oh right the map.

Because they couldn’t pre-made and therefore couldn’t effectively Zerg.

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Still nope. They left because the other two bgs were always better hph.

Is the repeating thing working yet?

Right, the map gives horde such an advantage they have to premade vs pugs to even have a chance.