Guys Blizzard is never going to change the map so, just enjoy it for what it is, Classic WoW Dark Souls AV. You may win one time, but that one time will be glorious. If you help your faction to put a fight, then most games are still fun win or lose. Yes it sucks losing, but respect the challenge, try to get better, and just have fun. Communicate more and stop the toxicity. Alliance is up against all odds, last thing we need to do is fight each other. Fight together, die together.
Which part didnt you understand when I said we were always in combat being engaged by the horde running back ?!
Hordes early arrival at SH is the biggest reason alliance cannot mount an offense. Once horde softcap SHGY, alliance either can’t die or they’re stuck behind that choke. Shutting alliance offense down before it even starts is a problem. The cave needs moved back.
All 25 of you needed to stay in combat the entire time to spin the flag from 15-20 horde? You couldn’t leave the battle for 30 seconds to replienish your mana?
If that’s the case then it sounds like you guys got outgeared or the other side is playing better.
I actually find this interesting, Because in retail, horde can’t win certain BGs AT ALL.
But lets look at design, Horde is just Better over all imo, for both pvp and pve, ally is just better for pve because of salv.
This was a missed chance for a remake imo, but looking at the devs, I don’t think they could do it.
Can you read ?! I said we did spin it and now we were defending it ( you know wait 5 minutes ) to get it.
Yes me and others could have moved back and have a drink and just let the horde spin it back.
Should I speak orcish maybe you will understand.
Alliance has a huge advantage as we actually get to play the game. Horde are too coward to re-roll because they can’t play without all the phat lewt they have acquired. They think they are good at pvp, but they really are just a bunch of lemmings. If you think you are so good at PvP, start an Alliance toon haha.
I don’t think a single Horde should talk trash on here until they have created an Alliance toon and have tried to win in AV.
Spin means to aoe the flag down so they don’t recap. You don’t need to kill them for that.
Or maybe only like 5 of you retreat to gete mana and stuff, and then go back in, then a different 5 retreats, and does the same thing.
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Yep keep making excuses just like that neighbors kid.
I’m glad you are enjoying the short queues and you are “playing the game” but I have a question : while you are playing and “enjoying” it how much is the % of you really playing it and how much is % of you rezzing at different GY’s further and further till you rezz in the cave. Also curious about the shyty honor and reputation you make when these days you cant even do LT’s because horde are camping the bottle neck at Icewing Bunker.
I have about 500 games in AV and won 20. Consistent 5% win rate. I am exalted and everything. I just love AV because it can be fun but the 5% win rate is not sustainable. It makes it not fun at all. It doesn’t take a genius to look at the graveyards and see what the issue is. I have a 209% mount and I will never get to SF GY before the horde. Never. Even with sprinting out of the cave and trying as hard as I can they get there before me 100% of the time. As someone who loves this BG, if you are gonna take away alliance premade because it was toxic to the community then we got to fix this as well because it is just as toxic.
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You are absolutely wrong. That changed once the druids were fixed. Usually, alliance goes immediately on offense, their push gets wiped, they very quickly lose SHGY, and it becomes “one of those games”.
I’m doing a lot more fighting than I am sitting in a 2 hour Q that’s for sure. I do my best to develop strats, macros, and make call outs. My games don’t always suck, but a lot of them do. Still working out the kinks and working on my epic mount, so the jury is still out.
When I was on Horde we lost every game because the Alliance would just zerg to Drek. I then started to intercept the zerg, and called for 6-10 to play defense. People moaned and groaned at first saying defense was stupid, but suddenly it started working, and the meta shifted.
Now I am fighting against my own meta on the other side and it feels great. Like racing your ghost in Mario Kart 64
The barn strat is pretty legit. I talked to the best Alliance quarterback that I have seen so far, and he says he wins about 25% of his games. Fun in a video game is really all about perspective.
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I 100% admit that I was one of the those Horde who said “just let them go by…its faster that way”
Funny how one person and some cooperation can change the meta lol
dang that’s a lot bigger then it use to be
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typical alliance hyberbole.
Been in plenty of games with alliance rocking 300 hks and winning with horde sitting at under 100
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I’d believe you except for the “winning” part.
Tribalism actually has people convinced that Horde players are better at any one specific element of the game than Alliance players. There’s no difference between factions, it’s the same player base on both sides. Alliance lose 99% of their games because they don’t try, but they don’t try because they know that even if they did, they’d probably lose 95% of the games. The map is an unfair advantage, and pretending one faction is simply better is delusional
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While i agree with triablism, i disagree with the rest. There is a better faction when it comes to PvP. Its factual that horde have an advantange in PvP due to racials. Its literally undisputable.
Yes but the players aren’t better. Just because their racials are better doesn’t mean the player base is. The player base is identical in every way, except one side has received an advantage that allows them to win. Their racials are basically the same as map imbalance.
Tribalism is believing that Horde are somehow magically better at PvP because they win more, but actuality is understanding it’s the same on both sides, except one has abilities that are more suited to pvp