You know that quotes don’t actually denote emphasis, right?
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So what about all of us M+ players? Chopped liver?
Your thread title is clickbait, and your metrics are incredibly stupid and not representative of current populations. You’re also over-inflating the effects Mythic guilds have on general player activity. The vast majority honestly doesn’t care one bit what strangers do that doesn’t affect them directly.
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What if they’re air quotes?
Um… Um…
So OP, you’re claiming those who have killed Mythic Boss 6x or are 1800+ in PVP Ranking are the entire WoW Population? ![:thinking:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/thinking.png?v=6" ":thinking:")
I never said that. I’m not talking about overall population.
Sarcasm, not emphasis.
Which, I suppose, makes the subject line’s claim that these numbers represent the only “active” users unintentionally accurate.
But you do need to change the word “active”. It doesn’t matter if you use quotes or not. Using that word is misleading regardless of whether or not you have quotation marks around it. Use different words like hardcore, elite, top players etc. to make your point. Otherwise your entire post is inaccurate.
Best and active do not mean the same thing. The factions are pretty much 50/50 as far as active players playing the game goes, horde just has better players.
Except that number IS relevant.
Sunday night: “I want to pug a key on my horde character”. I open the group finder for a +13 or whatever and see quite a large selection even at 3 AM.
If I were to do that on Alliance I would not be able to be picky at all. There simply isn’t the same amount of people doing difficult content. Its ALWAYS been like this. Finding pug groups for heroic raids were even a chore when I was on Alliance whereas on Horde there are dozens of groups and you can generally start on whatever boss you want.
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Using the % of high-end players is a poor metric tbh.
I’m not concerned with how many subs there are on alliance, how many people are out doing WQs, or farming herbs. I am concerned with the people that I or others can group with to join group activities. Can’t raid alone. Can’t do M+ alone. Can’t even do higher level pvp without people.
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Better players at whining about getting stomped in wpvp maybe.
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Fallyn, you made me really sad. I haven’t seen people saying that doing things outside of group activities is useless. It’s a different path, but the group activities are the focus of this because people can’t make other people appear out of thin air on raid night or for their M+. Solo content is cool, RP is just fine, farming old content is dandy… but you don’t have to gather a certain number of people for any of those.
The point is not to snub the people just doing their thing. The point is that alliance players will have to start making their family members and coworkers play if they want to stay alliance.
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Except those metrics give a rough estimation on what content people can gasp group up for.
Go to LFG on horde under dungeons and type 11. Dozens of hits for even the bare minimum for max rewards from m+. Do the same on alliance. SUBSTANTIALLY less people. You cant be picky on Alliance because no one is doing harder keys.
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How does Mechagnomes vs Vulpera balance anything? Vulpera is way out in front on that one. I am sorry but for me I keep leaning more and more in favor of the Horde.
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Horde cannot decide on who their leader is. Horde is always betraying horde leaders and they always need the alliance help to get rid of one. Horde will side with alliance just to kill a horde leader a.k. Garrosh and now Sylvannas
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And like countless people on the forums have stated people doing their own thing not associating with anyone are a meaningless number in a statistic. I could care less how many people are in goldshire, or doing pet battles, or farming old dungeons/raids. What matters is how many people show up in a group finder to do group content. Even in a more “casual” sense, Alliance queue times are WAY longer than Horde for queued content because the majority of the Alliance playerbase would rather die than have someone else in a party with them.
I don’t really see a solution to people preferring one faction over another. Nerfing the horde racials could “solve” it, but if they are currently balanced that could just make it flip the other way. Or maybe people don’t care and just like the horde more. How do you fix that?
I don’t think the Horde will side with the Hypocritical Alliance after the BS they just did with the Zandalari after preaching how Sylvanas is evil and should be punished for Teldrassil.
All they did was piss off a powerful nation who literally had no effect on what happened in Lorderon or Teldrassil. Sylvanas is now even more angry, as well as bolstering her reason for attacking the Alliance in the first place.
The only solution is to eliminate the factions and make it a cooperative style game (like GW2). But nobody wants that, so everyone chooses where they want to be. It is a personal decision.