High Elves, and how finally make them playable

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Let’s see how long this High Elf Thread will last.

Be lucky you had this up while it last because other forums like MMO Champion takes them down in a day than the Official WoW Forums themselves.

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They’re a means of condensing discussion in a single channel of communication on the forums, thereby making it easier for those who read threads to gather feedback and bring it to the Developers. If there are dozens of threads, something is going to fall through the cracks. If a Developer asks for more information on something specific, having one thread to comb through is infinitely easier to peruse for those who have to go looking for more information.

This thread hadn’t been commented on for 14 days before you posted. The High Elf Megathread has maintained activity and discussion during that time while this one dropped off.

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I really don’t get what the big deal is.

  • Slightly different faces
  • Different hair styles
  • Different shades of blonde
  • Different jewelry options

It’s not that difficult… can even call it a cultural difference from the BE’s that live in Silvermoon vs. the ones that have been staying with the Alliance.

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They are playable, have been for years, I have two of them.

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Considering that people want High Elves because they are on the alliance, your statement is simply an oxymoron.

There are reasons why Blood Elves call themselves that, there are reasons why some High Elves till call themselves that, and there’s a reason why the later are either on the alliance or neutral, but not as part of the horde.

The different names denote the ideologies of different groups, this should not be this hard for people to understand.

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Blood elves and high elves are the same. The majority of the race changed their names. The ones left where in the alliance, but left. The few who returned are looked at with skepticism because they went traitorous once before, so they mostly stay in Dalaran. There is no reason to have the same race, but with different eyes, on each faction. They already regret pandaren. And they have shown that blood elves realistically, could get their blue eyes back if they start to use more arcane.

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Biologically, yes. Politically? No. They are on different factions. The point bbeing made is that in a game about faction war, the arbitrary division my biology makes less sense than, you know, politics.

High Elves are ALREADY on the alliance; it’s simply the non-diegetic gameplay decision of “we don’t want the same race on both factions -except pandaren”- which makes them not playable. It’s not a lore based decision, merely a design one.

And yet the Silver Covenant has remained an Alliance force through all of these years since WotLK. And not a hint of skepticism in game shown towards them.

And that’s is completely subjective, and I disagree.

One developer does, one that hasn’t been on Blizzard for years.

Speculative, not confirmed at all. And regardless, that blood elves get blue eyes has nothing to do with the political and ideological differences BE’s and HE’s have. It’s not about the eye color.

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You can play them. They’re called Blood Elves.

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“You only have to play them on the opposite faction they are!”

Like do people really don’t get that the appeal of High elves is because they are on the alliance? Do people really get so confused by semantics they understand that the modern usage of the denonym High Elf is not the same it was pre-third war?

How can there be a discussion of High Elves when people are so obtuse they literally don’t seem to understand the reason why people want playable High Elves?

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Confirmed. 100%. Thanks to my eye color of gold being due to the use of more holy energy within the sunwell. Its been made clear that their eye color can and does change based on what they are exposed to. Say its not about eye color, but they gave you void elves. Do you really need another blood elf variant? That was the compromise.

And yes, Ghostcrawler isn’t there anymore. However, he was the top dog. The fact that after all of these years when he left and they have not given us anything else like that speaks volumes.

Here is the reasons why they wont be an allied race from my research, backed by lore:

  • They left the alliance, who now doesn’t really much like them. Think DKs who first start out and those responses.

  • There are so few of them, as stated multiple times in multiple books, that they could realistically be classified as extinct. This is made worse by the fact that some have since become void elfs.

  • They are so scattered and have zero unity outside of one small group in dalaran that they wouldn’t even have a leader. They very much look out for themselves.

  • Thanks to having no unity and no leaders, there is no faction to bring into the fold even. The entirety of the Silver Covenint fits within Dalaran. That is the largest known grouping of their kind, and their ranks only grow due to other races joining.

So, one thing you would need to over come: How do you bring in a race who is scattered, not unified in anyway, and willingly left the alliance already due to not wanting to be with them to begin with?

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What is lore, and how does it work?

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If you are a fan of High Elves and High Elven lore you do not want the Alliance ones, they are traitors to the High Elven people. They thought being the bed warmers and pets of Humans was better than doing what they needed to to ensure their people survived.

The past, present and future of the High Elven people is the Blood Elves. If you are a fan of High Elves it’s the Blood Elves you want. The traitors in the Alliance are destined to die out and/or see their blood diluted by mating with Humans. Claiming to be a fan of High Elves then crying for Alliance High Elves is just silly and shows you just want pale skinned pretty Elves on the Alliance because Horde is “icky”.

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Probably because there’s a megathread about it already and pro-helfers are only making themselves look bad by spamming the board with new threads. Nice necro btw, dude.

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There was nothing good or reasonable about his long story. :-1:

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This would be the megathread. One large thread designed for the discussion of high elves. Don’t add spam to the forums by making new threads about this discussion and bring it to the appropriate location.

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as much as i enjoy these fringe peoples’ incessant tears for elves to have blue eyes(:smile:)… i kinda wish they would just like go away now. its basically borderline sadism now isnt it :thinking:

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Those are not High Elves nor even the Name Quel’dorei which stands for High Elves. The ones on the Horde are called Red Skin Sin’dorei Green/Yellow Eye Blood Elves.

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That’s completely subjective and tied to several different interpretations.
Actually there are a lot of people who is fan of High Elves that think that blood elves are a distorted change over high elves original lore and concept, specially becuase they joined to he Horde.
Several people wants the thalasian elves who are and were willed to join forces with humans and dwarfs (not that much with nelfs) from the old days.
The Horde (a faction i really like) don’t fit so well with thalasian culture, at least under the point of view of many people.
Yes, there people who thinks that high elves are traitors. But also are people who thinks that they represent wath actually a thalasian elf was, is and shoul be.
Consider this words, and you will see that claiming High Elfs at the Aliance is not because at what you stated above:

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Seriously? Do you know what “confirmation” means? The only fact we have is for some reason, Blood elves are getting golden eyes, but not blue, right now. Your speculations aren’t facts.

There are LITERALLY High Elves on the Alliance right now. Not one, not 2, but 3 groups. The Silver Covenant, The Highvale, and the Allerian. And jury is up on the Kirin Tor’s place on the Alliance, so potentially 4.

And yet we have Void Elves. Nah, the population argument became Void with Void Elves.

Again, SPECULATION. Second time you try to pass speculation as facts.

I assume that you take that information from the Warcraft Encyclopedia, which was created during BC and updated for the last time before Wotlk… Then the Silver Covenant was introduced, which patently frames things differently. You can’t say “oh they are so scattered they don’t have goals or unity” when the lore that said that is OLDER than the creation of the Silver Covenant, a group with their own goals and presence through the expansions. And then we have the Highvale, which Cata gave their own flavor.

And as previously stated, there are already two groups the SC could recruit from.

It’s actually hilarious that you keep bringing up those points when the Silver Covenant literally exists and you have acknowledged it, the level of dissonance is staggering. The Silver Covenant, the group that unified with a common goal, and never left the alliance.

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My thoughts remain the same.

It would be stupid to make blood elves a neutral race, from a gameplay perspective.

This is why the Alliance get 874 different types of horses. They never want anything new. They just want reskins of things already in game.

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