High Elf POSITIVITY Thread 🕶

[Cezol-darkspear]

@Velftroy-frostmourne

Is she just a troll, though?

I consider anyone a troll who is continuously proven wrong and continues to spread their incorrect viewpoint on lore.

[Avarie-farstriders]

They frequently ignore our other reasons.

[Snowsong-fizzcrank]

@Velftroy-frostmourne

Is she just a troll, though? I’ve seen her in these threads for a bit now, and she genuinely seems to put effort into her posts and has a lot of good points, and she doesn’t necessarily have a bad attitude about us?

Pretty sure Cezol calls anyone who disagrees with him a troll. It can’t be helped. But no, I can enjoy a conversation with anyone who’s willing to be civil, and fair, which unfortunately isn’t everyone.

[Velftroy-frostmourne]

Yeah, a lot of them do. I was just saying how ironic it is to see Antis are now claiming to have the genuine High Elves, solely because of the blue eyes, blonde hair and paladin class.

[Avarie-farstriders]

The blood elves left the high elf name behind. Some didn’t get the memo I guess.

[Snowsong-fizzcrank]

@Visaerys-moon-guard

I’m only replying because people reading this thread need to see that others think you are getting on with nonsense. Let people be happy, and continue to be happy with your own head canon—but stop trying to push it on others, it’s not a good look.

I wasn’t pushing anything, onto anyone. I asked him a question, and he responded. In fact he’s the one trying to tell me what I can, and can’t do based off his headcanon.

And I can see you took all of that other stuff I said to him seriously, so I guess you missed the disclaimer?

@Snowsong-fizzcrank

-still call themselves a High elf. After all, we have no examples of this happening in game.

(And to anyone else reading, I have no problem with a Void elf, or blood elf identifying as a high elf, I’m merely applying his own logic against him.)

I guess it’s just amusing that the same line of thought he was trying to use on me, was just as easily applied to him.

[Priestwings-amanthul]

There is still no high elves as playable characters. A blood elf with blue eyes or a void elf with high elf skin still isn’t a high elf. So, nothing changes.

[Drede-cairne (Drede)]

I think our best option would be to ask for the “Alleria Experience” for Void Elves.

Where she still has all her High Elf themes and features but also has all her Void stuff added to that.

We also need to keep on with the request for Lore updates stating that Void Elves are joining up with High Elves.

Some good suggestions are-

• Allerian Stronghold fallows after their leader and starts studying the Void.
• The Void Elves join up with the Silver Covenant to farm use their infrastructure and teach the Silver Covenant how to use the Void.
• Highvale are trying to learn balance and Allera offers them to teach them how to use the Void. (Very iffy but a neat path to Paladins)

We also need to keep requesting additional customizations for all aspects of Void Elves like Allera Tattoos or new Hair Colors.

They seem to be listening so lets keep at it!

[Cezol-darkspear]

@Velftroy-frostmourne

paladin class.

Which has never been a “staple” of High Elves, so it’s laughable to see.

Staple “High Elf” classes are Hunter, Priest, and Mage.

[Thormus-hakkar]

@Snowsong-fizzcrank

I wasn’t pushing anything, onto anyone. I asked him a question, and he responded. In fact he’s the one trying to tell me what I can, and can’t do based off his headcanon.

And I can see you took all of that other stuff I said to him seriously, so I guess you missed the disclaimer?

I never said a person couldn’t RP as a High Elf that defected to the Horde/Silvermoon.

@Thormus-hakkar

THat’s not saying someone can’t RP as a High Elf that defected back to the Horde or as a Blood Elf who defects to the Alliance but I don’t know why they would take up that name when they’ve never been shown to do so as of yet. It’s likely the “Blue Eye” option for the Blood Elves is a result of the Sunwell being cleansed.

[Monori-bleeding-hollow]

If you didn’t agree with the choices of the past you wouldn’t be on the horde lol.

[Snowsong-fizzcrank]

@Thormus-hakkar

I never said a person couldn’t RP as a High Elf that defected to the Horde/Silvermoon.

Post messed up

[Monori-bleeding-hollow]

@Snowsong-fizzcrank

Perhaps the Blood elves will inherit all the pure High elves

I don’t tend to godwin but what the hell I though that we aka the pros were supposedly the supremacists according to antis anyway.

[Thormus-hakkar]

@Snowsong-fizzcrank

I mean this conversation only started when you said only the Void elves should be able to identify as High elves.

If someone who wants to RP an unique backstory of being a High Elf who returns to Silvermoon I don’t think there’s anything stopping that. Im talking about the groups as a whole. As a GROUP no one calls the Horde Thalassians High Elves. Why would they start now?

[Snowsong-fizzcrank]

@Thormus-hakkar

I never said a person couldn’t RP as a High Elf that defected to the Horde/Silvermoon.

I mean this conversation only started when you said only the Void elves should be able to identify as High elves.

@Monori-bleeding-hollow

If you didn’t agree with the choices of the past you wouldn’t be on the horde

I don’t see how those two things relate. The narrative of the Blood elves has changed a lot over the years, after all, and after all of Lor’themar’s gestures of good will I would hardly be surprised by the idea of some deciding to return home.

@Thormus-hakkar

If someone who wants to RP an unique backstory of being a High Elf who returns to Silvermoon I don’t think there’s anything stopping that. Im talking about the groups as a whole. As a GROUP no one calls the Horde Thalassians High Elves. Why would they start now?

But you see that same question can be asked of you.

Why would Void elves suddenly start identifying as High elves? Have we ever seen that happen before? Is there any proof that a Void elf would do that? And if you’re going to say “It’s the whole purpose for these customizations!” I’m going to have to let you know that the door swings both ways.

It’s the same logic used for Sand troll customizations on darkspear trolls. Sand Trolls are not a horde race, they’re an enemy clan to the Darkspears even, but that doesn’t mean every single Sand troll on the Horde identifies as a Darkspear troll.

[Monori-bleeding-hollow]

@Snowsong-fizzcrank

I don’t see how those two things relate. The narrative of the Blood elves has changed a lot over the years, after all, and after all of Lor’themar’s gestures of good will I would hardly be surprised by the idea of some deciding to return home.

Because the stuff the horde has gotten up to is even worse than the stuff that the blood elves did on their own that caused the rift.

[Snowsong-fizzcrank]

@Monori-bleeding-hollow

Because the stuff the horde has gotten up to is even worse than the stuff that the blood elves did on their own that caused the rift.

There’s a big difference when the point of contention are the members of the race itself, and when it’s other members of the same faction. Even less so when the source of conflict was forcibly removed. The point is that the Blood elves have evolved quite a bit since the original splintering, many of reasons that led to some division are no longer a problem, and with the Sunwell restored there’s reason enough for any High elf on Azeroth to decide it’s worth returning home and protecting.

[Monori-bleeding-hollow]

No it’s not rofl. Maybe in your head canon but in reality the blood elves have participated in horrific war crimes including genociding another race of elves. Did you miss the whole deliberate parallel between silvermoon’s fall and teld’s?

[Donoman-stormrage (Donoman)]

Exactly. The void theme belonged to shadow priests. Their entire legion campaigned focused around Xal’atath, the mysteries of the void, and how they could use it to their advantage without succumbing to its power.

Maghar orcs and the Arakkoa are examples of races that have void worship as part of their culture, but there’s so much more to them than that and even then their void worship is mainly put onto priests (where it should rightfully be) making it just a piece to their overall puzzle.

Then we have Void elves, whose whole culture revolves around the void, right? We don’t even know, because it hasn’t been explained at all. It doesn’t make sense to stick one class theme onto a race and give them absolutely nothing else. Just think of Night elves, how every single playable class has a different theme and a key role to their society. Void elves? Nada.

Just how are they going to tie in classes like warrior into the void theme? It just won’t make any sense. Every single Blood elf in the recruitment scenario was a mage or a warlock. Not even a single priest was present, the void class, it’s just unbelievable. So even now the playable classes are a stretch on lore, yet we have people that want to deny Paladin, -_- it’s a cruel joke.

[Snowsong-fizzcrank]

@Monori-bleeding-hollow

No it’s not rofl. Maybe in your head canon but in reality the blood elves have participated in horrific war crimes including genociding another race of elves. Did you miss the whole deliberate parallel between silvermoon’s fall and teld’s?

First of all, the Horde as a whole was under the impression that they were going to occupy Teldrassil, not destroy it. The decision to burn all the Night elves in a fire, and all of the other “Evil” decisions Sylvanas made were all revealed to be orchestrated by her in front of Orgimmar in front of everyone before she did her little voldemort flying trick.

Anyone could have seen that the Blood elves played a huge role in overthrowing and taking down Sylvanas, from allying with the Alliance to fight N’zoth and Azshara, to emassing with the Alliance to confront Sylvanas.

The whole Blood elf arc is a story of redemption for their race, and the idea that some High elves might see this and decide to return home is not hard to believe.