High Elf POSITIVITY Thread 😎

Lannisterian-tichondrius · May 30, 2020, 11:33pm

Yeah but I think I want to be a former BE still. I think my backstory of being a former Sylvanas loyalist actually works with being a VE post original VE’s. I could be one of those right now studying in the rift that looks normal. So I have to think why a BE studying the void with the current VE’s would have blue eyes. I will decide later heh!

Fezzy-draenor · May 30, 2020, 11:40pm

Ah I gotcha.

… Could be that the sunwell’s arcane side slipped in… Given your light connection though that’s harder.

Lannisterian-tichondrius · May 30, 2020, 11:43pm

I may have to just end up thinking of him as a former HE who was studying the Void. Which is okay too! Or maybe I’ll still do me and just use blue eyes just cause

Fezzy-draenor · May 30, 2020, 11:45pm

Whatever makes you happy I say.

Thormus-hakkar · May 30, 2020, 11:56pm

Probably unlikely but the way I can see that making sense is if they’re High Elves born in Stormwind rather than being exiled. They could be the children of High Elf settlers that moved to Stormwind when it was rebuilt after the Second War. They could have a different outlook on dangerous magics compared to the exiled High Elves.

Alamara-goldrinn · May 31, 2020, 12:45am

Hey, guys, after three days of meditation on the matter, I’ve decided to resub for one month (with gold, of course) just to celebrate the news!

It also renews my hopes for further allied race customization.

For void elves, I’m now hoping:

More hair styles
More hair colors: dark red, bege, silver-blue, black, white, dual color (red/black, blue/blonde).
Toggle to select between hair tendrils and braids
Alleria-like tattoos with void, blue, violet or magenta colors.

Just that and it’s perfect for me.

BTW, have you seen the new Entropic Embrace in the alpha? It’s darker and does not cover the hair, looking more like Alleria’s void form:

Lannisterian-tichondrius · May 31, 2020, 12:48am

Big welcome back!! I always enjoy seeing your well thought out posts and ideas Alamara! One of my favorite posters on this topic! I’m very excited for things moving forward!

Alamara-goldrinn · May 31, 2020, 12:50am

Thanks.

With these new customization options, I guess Blizzard won’t need to try to hide the high elves anymore. The simple fact that they are now “playable” increases the chance of there being storylines featuring them in the future.

Blizzard purposely hid the high elves in BfA because they wanted to sell their new toy, void elves. If high elves weren’t “threatening” to void elves, then they’d probably would had appeared more. They are no longer such a “threat”. Blizzard has no reason to downplay their roles anymore. So, I hope to see more of them in the future (once we go back to Azeroth, that is).

Lannisterian-tichondrius · May 31, 2020, 12:52am

That’s true I never thought of it like that, I figured they could add HE lore into VEs by just confirming the new recruits are former HEs. But it didn’t dawn on me we would also see more HE story outside of this just in general! That sounds amazing!

Alamara-goldrinn · May 31, 2020, 12:55am

I think they’ll appear with void elves often, and their stories may be tied from now on, but at least there’s no reason to hide them anymore. That possibility makes me happy. No more only-blue elves in the Alliance!

Lannisterian-tichondrius · May 31, 2020, 12:58am

Are you going to use the blue eyes on Alamara ? I think I will use them on my priest, I like that bright blue that was shown!

Elyssaria-kargath · May 31, 2020, 12:59am

I know I’d use them on a character. Just don’t care for the entropic embrace visual, so iam with Avarie on that.

Drede-cairne · May 31, 2020, 1:00am

Just going to quote this here to see what everyone thinks.

New Customization Options for Blood Elves and Void Elves

I think the best solution to actually end this all quickly would be to have the Void Elves join the Silver Covenant.

The Silver Covenant is an actual organization with a long history in WoW and a big military presence. So it would make sense for the smaller, more specialized group to join them and share what they have to offer. Also given that the leaders of each group are sisters helps this greatly.

Then you can have Silver Covenant themed options added to the Void Elves and say some of them are in fact Silver Covenant High Elves. Even going so far as to add Paladins and just say they are Silver Covenant who learned some tricks from the Void Elves.

This could be done as simply as some NPCs talking like the ones that added new Class/Race options in Cataclysm or even a quest like Night Warrior that awards you a Silver Covenant themed Armor Set and/or a Mount.

Maybe even some Alliance High Elf themes like Alleria’s Tattoos.

This would solved pretty much all the issues and allow the Void Elves to still be their own thing as a specialized group in the Silver Covenant while still getting all the support and themes of High Elves in the Alliance.

The same thing could be done for more Subraces like Sand Trolls, Dark Trolls, and Wildhammer. And even new groups like San’layn, Tunka, Gilblins, and others.

Lannisterian-tichondrius · May 31, 2020, 1:01am

Hmmm that’s less of an issue for me as I already like VEs as is. So the addition of HEs as recruits and HE customization is enough for me. I think it might be realistic to get a toggle on and off? Some want a total rework of it I think that’s just not realistic. But who knows all may be possible and positivity is in the air!

Leyara-moon-guard · May 31, 2020, 1:01am

I love my alliance high elves
I remember Fiora Longears in Darkshore. This is for her!

Gizolfi-sentinels · May 31, 2020, 1:02am

This could work, though it depends on how it’s presented.

Suppose that after the player character exits the Shadowlands, they come face to face with not Anduin Wrynn, but his grandson, who is now the king of Stormwind. Because of plot, he doesn’t know who you are at first but eventually begins putting everything together, realizing that you are the missing hero of the Alliance that was written about (maybe by Anduin himself, maybe by someone chronicling your contributions to Azeroth). This would allow him to reintroduce you to Azeroth but with notable political and societal changes, while also allowing the game to give you a rough idea of what happened while you were away in the Shadowlands.

Given the above timegap, Genn would be dead, as would possibly Moira (her son would be the king of Ironforge). Jaina could plausibly still be alive, provided she pulled some magic shenanigans. Tyrande and Malfurion would also still be alive (then again, one of the events of the time gap could be that Tyrande lost control of the Night Warrior and had to be put down by a raid of 40 lore characters). I agree that you shouldn’t keep the current lore characters alive if the time gap is well past their lifespan.

Elyssaria-kargath · May 31, 2020, 1:04am

I think this was prior to blizz deciding that night elves and high elves hating each other and using the sundering as reason why.

It was an interesting or at least a potential story to make kaldorei and quel’dorei become allies after all this time.

Alamara-goldrinn · May 31, 2020, 1:07am

I think my suggestions above would be nice for both high and void elves, as Blizzard.

As for other options, I have a theory but I’ll post it in the San’layn thread later.

Leyara-moon-guard · May 31, 2020, 1:08am

You would think this would be a great time considering night elves were welcoming shen’dralar arcane magic users into their ranks again. But hey, that’s my fault for thinking blizz would write an interesting story.

Kynerata-moon-guard · May 31, 2020, 1:09am

The problem is Ren’dorei are already a race. One that I and many others particularly like. Having them marked a “subrace” or group in the silver covenant doesn’t sit well with me. And many others. Our lore is still very scarce ect. Us being just a “subrace” would be a massive downgrade and insult. If you wish for High Elves you should be pushing for High Elves to be their separate thing.