High Elf POSITIVITY Thread 😎

The issue with something of a timeskip is that there has to be a payoff to why a timeskip is necessary. Either Blizzard would have to create new foes/threats/lands out of thin air OR break the “In Case of Emergency: Void Lords invasion” case.

I mean perhaps with the Shadowlands basically being uncharted territory with a lot of new ideas/villains could show that they might pursue new world-building opportunities…but from past examples of Blizzard doing this, it generally has not been received well by the community or the fans of the lore.

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Void elves are only different in appearance though. Culturally and ideologically they are the same as blood elves.

Please show your evidence that they are limited.

There is no reason to have this 1 or the other mentality with races. We can have them all be playable.

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This is a bad argument.

Faction identity is about values, not surface traits.

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Odd, I read somewhere they reach it at 75, then again I think that was just cause they could live to like 1,000+++. 20 probably is about accurate now that they can die of old age. No clue about the Blood elves though, does the new light sunwell offer immortality? or does it just mildly sate their magic hunger?

well the scourge would have been running rampant for 5 years by the time we come back, characters need to age, politics will have been present likely leading to another cold war stand off between the alliance and horde similar to when vanilla launched.

There are many minor threats that can grow while we are gone. We shouldn’t be fighting the literal apocalypse every expansion. Hell I would even have our player characters “die” in shadowlands and have us start out again as nobodies. Whether or not our characters canonically died is completely optional. Something could happen that simply makes people not remember us. All they remember is the hero not who they were.

We don’t need things to be weird just for the sake of being weird, and that wouldn’t be automatically interesting anyway.

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We dont know if thats the case after pre-launch event. I would wait to say that until we see said payoff. I expect a Blizzard “get-out-of-jail-free” card to somehow give Bolvar back control to calm the Scourge.

Who drasctically ages in 5 years out of the main stay cast? Anduin is pretty much in his adult model as a character.

They have done it before without focusing on it as a major plot point. This was one of the downfalls of BFA.

Name a couple.

We literally have been every expansion.

You got flagged so fast butter cup

This is a fair point, obviously from most references in WoW chronology elves like Illidan, Maiev, Malfurion Tyrande, Shandris etc etc all aged to like 20 or 30 and have stayed there for thousands of years and even the biologically mortal elves have this “young” effect up until like 200 or so, so it’s definitely probably not physical/procreative maturity, though imagine waiting 75 years to be considered being wise enough to drive a car :rofl:?

Well Thrall’s son would be considered an adult at that point, Vereesa’s kids would be in their late teens, and dagran jr. would be 12-13 years old meaning he can be used similar to how anduin was in cata-MoP.

I really want Dagran to be relevant. Give him character development for multiple expansions and we see him grow up into the king of all dwarves uniting all of the clans.

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Durak? He’s four years old in BFA.

Who have never been introduced into the game.

Which doesnt mean anything, since Moira is still in charge as Empress. You can give him some development but as a whole dwarves are very underwritten.

Please show your evidence that they are the same.

They look pretty different to me, what doesn’t? Alliance high elves.

Your argument is a bad argument. Alliance high elves aren’t a thing, they aren’t out there in that way. Blood Elves have the homeland, the capitol, and they are the continuity of the high elven story. You’re trying to argue fan fiction into the game through the forums.

No, but playable Alliance high elves would be the most banal thing they could do, aside from just adding more humans.

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well close to an adult. orcs are fully grown by age 12. At half that they are as tall as a human.

Honestly it seems your responses are made in a way to limit the story rather than letting it expand with the potential it has.

Why do you always return to this.

High elves are already alliance, this argument would only work if they weren’t already alliance.

Nothing is being changed other than those already alliance high elves being playable.

You’re not losing any faction identity whatsoever. Blood elves would continue being horde.
High elves would continue being alliance.

The only change would be that those high elves would finally be playable, which virtually has no effect on you the blood elves whatsoever.

Again, if there were horde humans that have been horde-aligned since pre-wow, I’m sure it would be a valid request.
Yes, randomly requesting humans would infringe on the alliance because humans are not already horde.
This is completely irrelevant to the already alliance alligned high elves.

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I don’t want hipster stories anymore. It doesn’t work. It’s not even the reason for blood elves, and players knew it and called it for many years until the high elf request became plausible.

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Aging kids by 5 years does nothing if their parents are still firm-grasp in charge. All you are doing is adding flavor characters who really add nothing.

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Culturally they are the same as blood elves. They make use of magic like they do, They act haughty, and otherwise are the same casual nobility of silvermoon.

As for ideologically they are the same. Throw aside all morals and traditions to protect their people. They are just on the alliance because of arbitrary reasons even though the blood elves realistically wouldn’t have kicked them out.

You are conflating appearance to culture and ideology.

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By that logic we should only use the same 5 or so characters forever. You think too small. Same issue blizzard has.

SO, what WoW has basically been doing for a while now…

and it is incorrect. Blizzard thinks too small and this is often a criticism that they focus on a small cast of characters.