High Elf POSITIVITY Thread 😎

[Lights-proudmoore]

Alleria’s circumstance was 100% completely different from ours and how she became entangled with the void. Trying to use that as a comparison is silly.

[Tarrok-thorium-brotherhood (Tarrok)]

Seriously, I have a lowbie one I play with a friend since she abandoned the guild we had before (and did she have to choose a whole new server if she wanted to go ally?) And I want more void options. But I have a feeling there won’t be much so you don’t end up with void elves having massively more options than other races.

[Nicodemùs-argent-dawn (Nicodemùs)]

We actually don’t know what hair style and hair color options we’re getting. The teaser only showed a few things. We’ll know more when the content actually hits alpha. There’s very likely more coming than what was shown in the teaser. The announcement even says:

This is just a sneak peek at some of the many customization options coming

[Lannisterian-tichondrius]

@Visaerys-moon-guard

We can be Quel’dorei and Ren’dorei all at the same time.

And especially if the Quel’dorei are joining the ranks. They would be in all but name a Quel’dorei still, following Alleria, and arguably have a more accepting culture now viewing the void as an ally.

[Talendrion-wyrmrest-accord (Talendrion)]

@Lights-proudmoore

Still doesn’t change the fact that once they toy with the void they are now ren’dorei.

I’m pissed that the high elf campers are trying to steal the identity of void elves, already begging for less voidy asthestics, void elf paladins and other such garbage, claiming it as their own and saying that they had some type of big victory

Adding less voidy stuff to void elves doesn’t remove the void stuff they have. You can still be as void as you want, how others want to customize their characters has no effect on you.

And this devoid of actual story context, in which case Void Elves remain all about the Void so far, so this is really not an issue.

[Callistus-wyrmrest-accord]

Yeah. But I think they’ve decided to go with customization options rather than duplicating races?

I’d prefer they got Paladins personally. Kind of important.

But Void Elves aren’t High Elves. They’re Blood Elves.

But look at the other races put out by customization.

Wildhammer Dwarves aren’t Bronzebeards.
Forest Trolls, Ice Trolls, etc. etc. Aren’t Darkspear.

So it’s not just a High Elf problem.

[Nicodemùs-argent-dawn (Nicodemùs)]

Alleria’s circumstances were completely different from Umbric’s original squad. The same very likely does not hold true for those Sin’dorei and Quel’dorei coming to Telogrus to study the void. It’s far more likely they are learning the way Alleria did from Locus Walker. The NPC’s even gather around him indicating as much.

[Visaerys-moon-guard]

As far as you know. You can’t actually suggest that the one time event the void elves were originally created in is always how it it will ever be. That makes zero sense, when it’s been shown that NPCs from the Sin’dorei and Quel’dorei are joining the Ren’dorei. Ergo, the circumstances are once again completely different.

Why are people not equating the new Night Warrior night elf customization to this. That was supposedly a one time event that never really happens, and yet anyone can look like the night warrior now. By your logic, there shouldn’t be level one night warrior’s running around Teldrassil, but there are!

My point is, not everything happens in the exact set of experiences we have been shown in game.

[Lannisterian-tichondrius]

@Callistus-wyrmrest-accord

But Void Elves aren’t High Elves. They’re Blood Elves.

We see HEs in the rift already. We know current VEs are former BEs. And the remaining thing most wanted is story behind the customization, why can’t these customizations be SC or some various HE groups under the banner of the Ren’dorei. It would be lore story to officially and explicitly show these are the HEs you’ve always wanted when you customize your VE to use these options.

[Lights-proudmoore]

I’m not saying adding less voidy stuff is wrong, what i’m saying is wrong, is now that people have been given an inch they’re taking that inch and stretching it like a fruit roll up.

Asking for void elf paladins or changing the story of the void elves so they can “better immerse themselves” as a high elf is absolutely bonkers.

Like, High elves were never even paladins until they became blood elves and enslaved a Naaru.

All i’m saying is, stop trying to hijack my race.

[Tarrok-thorium-brotherhood (Tarrok)]

I think it would be a real concern that they won’t want to have the void elves have an excessively large amount of options compared to other ARs (or cores if they tried to satisfy both looks) so I think there may well be competition for what gets in.

[Kynerata-moon-guard]

@Lights-proudmoore

I’m not saying adding less voidy stuff is wrong

I want MORE voidy stuff, give us more voidish cosmetics. Right now all we can have is tentacle hair and purple skin when we could get so much more voidy stuff. Void runes, physical appearance changes ect ect.

[Nicodemùs-argent-dawn (Nicodemùs)]

The fact that it seems Void Elves are getting such a broad array of options leads me to believe that the rest of the “first four” will get similar treatment for Shadowlands launch. Especially since the allied races we got in BfA proper had quite a bit more options than the “first four” and were of a higher quality IMO.

Blizzard may be giving the “first four” some extra attention precisely because of how shortchanged their were compared to the ones unlocked in BfA.

[Powercrystal-faerlina]

Paladins even being associated with the void is bonkers. Go walk into the cathedral as a ren’dorei and you’ll get your response just from the NPCS.

[Thormus-hakkar]

We don’t know that for sure. We just saw a preview. There could be a bunch of new options of non-voidy hair and normal hair colors such as Blonde and Red.

[Nicodemùs-argent-dawn (Nicodemùs)]

Imagine a class that does everything a Paladin can do… but isn’t called a Paladin… and sources its power from the Void rather than the Light.

Let’s call it a Void Knight.

Mechanically under the hood it is a Paladin, same exact spells but with different names and icons and visually those spells are the blue/black color of other void spells we’ve seen in game and they do shadow damage instead of holy.

Would such an option be acceptable for Void Elves to have?

[Fezzy-draenor (Fezzy)]

@Lights-proudmoore

Alleria’s circumstance was 100% completely different from ours and how she became entangled with the void.

It’s also a lot easier to reproduce. The ritual that changed the void elves is one way to that power. Alleria’s path is another. High elf wayfarers are learning there.

Now we can see that second generation of void elves.

[Talendrion-wyrmrest-accord (Talendrion)]

@Callistus-wyrmrest-accord

Yeah. But I think they’ve decided to go with customization options rather than duplicating races?

I’d prefer they got Paladins personally. Kind of important.

But Void Elves aren’t High Elves. They’re Blood Elves.

But look at the other races put out by customization.

Wildhammer Dwarves aren’t Bronzebeards.
Forest Trolls, Ice Trolls, etc. etc. Aren’t Darkspear.

So it’s not just a High Elf problem

Indeed, so I do hope that all these new customizations get some lore nods; it doesn’t have to be a dedicated questline, it can be either flavor text or mentioning it on questlines.

It can be as easy as alluding it to it during the Pre Patch Event with the NPC’s we see. Like, we are on the argent tournament grounds, and we see the Silver Covenant there with both High Elves and Void Elves. During quest text one mentions they have joined forces. Pretty much that’s all we need as set up for now.

Same for pretty much other customization options, maybe it just has to be about adding some NPC’s on the main cities with flavor text.

@Lights-proudmoore

I’m not saying adding less voidy stuff is wrong, what i’m saying is wrong, is now that people have been given an inch they’re taking that inch and stretching it like a fruit roll up.

Asking for void elf paladins or changing the story of the void elves so they can “better immerse themselves” as a high elf is absolutely bonkers.

Like, High elves were never even paladins until they became blood elves and enslaved a Naaru.

All i’m saying is, stop trying to hijack my race.

I mean there are a lot of Void Elves that would love to be Void Knights, so you can’t just say is “HE people” asking of it. I’m a HE folk and I am not asking for it. We are fine without paladins.

Whatever path the Void Elves follow as a race now, is up to Blizzard. No, adding normal skin tones doesn’t take away from that, and talking about thalassian unity on the alliance is a matter that concerns both VE and HE.

Void Elves have so little lore that as much as anything new can feel like diluting the concept, it’s as much just adding complexity to it. Yet still, the VE leader looks more like a High Elf, VE’s are as much defined by their connection to the void as they are to their thalassian heritage.

So what lore path do you think Void Elves should follow? Become even more void? isolate themselves? rejoin with the rest of the thalassian exiles?

@Tarrok-thorium-brotherhood

I think it would be a real concern that they won’t want to have the void elves have an excessively large amount of options compared to other ARs (or cores if they tried to satisfy both looks) so I think there may well be competition for what gets in

Perhaps, but that’s more dependent into what overall aesthetic blizzard wants for VE’s moving forward and less about feedback. Doubt they will completely backtrack VE for HE’s when they have been historically indolent to the HE issue.

[Tarrok-thorium-brotherhood (Tarrok)]

It all depends on where they go from here. This is sort of opening them up to have two opposing aesthetics in one race. So it’s one thing if they go all out with ARs and roll multiple races into them (although for a few that seems unlikely compared to the core race, why put new Tauren races, or Draenei ones into HMT or LFD when they can go on the core and work for more characters?) Then it wouldn’t be out of the ordinary to have customizations for basically two races in one AR. But if they don’t do too much with the other ARs it could end up with not much for either, or one type getting the lion’s share. Or just a simple “Most players went with the non void look, so we’ll prioritize that.”

[Powercrystal-faerlina]

They aren’t going to do a complete over haul of a class’s cosmetics just for one race. Blizzard has voiced their frustrations with doing that with how annoying green fire is when they create new lock abilities and updates to the spell models.

I’ll give you that it is a cool idea, it just isn’t something I think blizzard would do.