I go back and forth on which Iād rather see between druid and shaman if I had to pick one.
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The thing with Shaman and Druids for High Elves is thereās nothing technically stopping them but thereās also nothing to support them.
We have no current examples of High Elf Druids or Shaman.
All we have is ideas on how they could get them but they just arenāt there yet.
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So long as we get playable Alliance Silver Covenant High Elves. =)
From there, can work on which of the restricted classes they get.
Based on the history and what we have seen in game, there are simply some that are guaranteed in my opinion.
1.) Warrior
2.) Mage
3.) Hunter
4.) Rogue
5.) Priest
6.) Paladin
From there, there are some candidates that can be removed immediately:
Demon Hunter
Warlock
Some that are in contention based on previous lore (and not as easily removable candidate as I thought earlier):
Death Knight
And then those that are up for grabs and based on new lore:
Monk
Druid
Shaman
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I think this is what usually helps newer races take off though.
They absolutely PACKED Zandalari with the most popular classes because they were so highly anticipated.
I agree that having too many classes isnāt ok, but having the ones that make more lore sense do, and from what Iāve heard, pally and Druid are more lore friendly.
It wouldnāt necessarily mean they have the most popular classes, it would just make them as versatile as any other non-troll or dwarf race.
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And this is why I choose them. Because of all the examples and ideas people give to take BE things.
If I had to choose was the original point, between Shaman, Druid, and Paladin. I choose the first two simply because I feel it stops potential future ideas on how to take BE things but hasnāt happened yet and Iām basing that over the overlapping of story I see with Paladins and the Sunwell.
That is just my take, if Druids and Shamans donāt even make the equation then it is what it is. But if I had to choose between the 3 I choose the two that I think would emphasize their differences.
Paladins need to be given more dominantly to the alliance again,as they were originally an alliance class. Currently 3 races on the horde and alliance can be paladins. This is even. However, currently the original horde race shaman is a 4 on the alliance and 7 on the horde. Giving the alliance another pally would make sense. As for not having an elf druid nightborne is totally open with them honestly being able to work with the Balance spec quite well. And yes, Iād say they can work with just one spec. Like priests with velf
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To that end I support NE Paladins.
I also support class glyphs or oriented stuff to make it more inherently NE but it wouldnāt bother me as long as in lore they were elune oriented game play is what it is I guess.
Emphasize the differences at the expense of established lore.
Massive misunderstanding on the Sunwell, High Elf Paladins, and Blood Knights.
Youāre claiming a LOT as BE things, rather than seeing the insane amount of overlap that exists.
Paladins are one of those things at a class levelā¦but at the lore level on their specific implementation and how their abilities are channeledā¦they become different.
Restricting Paladin doesnāt stop this possibility. Quite frankly I donāt think it even remotely reduces the possibility.
Furtherā¦Paladins are not uniquely Blood Elven.
They belong to both Blood Elves and High Elves (and Humans, and Draenei, and Dwarves, etc.).
I agree in principle but with the addition of:
ā Not at the expense of established lore (and there are already established Silver covenant High Elf paladins).
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And they both have a connection to the Sunwell. And the Paladin class is said to be very closely associated with the Sunwell. So their either the same like youāre trying to say here.
Or they arenāt and they can selectively control how much of a connection to the Sunwell they have.
Either way what difference does it make to you that my opinion prefers Shamans and Druids as Iām only speaking on the idea of them receiving Paladin, Shaman, and Druid.
Well, Paladins are already there and basically a given.
Though itās not completely impossible to get Shaman or Druid itās not a good chance and I donāt see both happening.
We need some new stuff to happen for them to be put on the table.
And people trying to take Blood Elf things can be safely ignored or straight up countered.
Heck, all you have to do is say āThey arenāt freaken Blood Knights!ā.
And again, the same concern applies to Priest as well.
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Againā¦this is a massive misunderstanding of Paladin lore in regards to Blood Elves, High Elves, and the Sunwell.
Your opinion is based on incomplete knowledge of the lore.
Your opinion being based on incomplete information matters.
However, at this point, I desist simply because youāre defensive. Thereās no way to reach you.
Further, itās quite possible you were never really open to having your mind changed. Or, even if you were, my counter arguments simply didnāt convince you. (The latter statement is also a high probability)
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They could go all sorts of routes with High Elf pallies, they donāt have to directly draw from the sunwell for it to make sense. Some could have discovered it trying to cope with addiction and found it quite useful. Some couldāve integrated with some human society and seen the ways of the light. And even if they are connected to the sunwell, many High Elves could take a moral route claiming that the blood knights should have no right to the sunwell due to their transgressions such as literally draining a naruu for power.
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This is literally the established lore for High Elf Paladins for:
- Pre-Arthas invasion
- Post arthas invasion up till TBC
- Post TBC
Just gotta go read it.
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Really? Then what is this argument even about if the lore has already been clearly established. Seems kinda set in stone and easy to solve then.
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But Zandalari warlocks were thought to be a given to is my point.
I just donāt think HEs should get all 3 of those classes mentioned.
As for people asking for BE things, I think itās too many people ignoring them that makes it look like they have a more widespread opinion than they do, as when the only times it gets spoken on by other pros is often in support it looks like a consensus of support. So I personally choose to not ignore it and speak out on it, as is my choice to do so.
I still find it odd the insinuation that HEās and HE lore arenāt being respected simply because if having to choose between Druid, Shaman and Paladin I wouldnāt choose Paladin. Is ridiculous, especially compared to how many people actually choose to ignore and disrespect BE lore.
Classes were suggested, I have a preference on them, that is all.
Itās being posed as a difference of opinion regarding the direction of the High Elf story based on class availability.
The idea is that in order to most differentiate any potential future High Elf story from the BLood Elf one and prevent any potential undesirable overlap or undesirable claiming of something that is uniquely āBlood Elfā for the potentially playable āHigh Elvesā is no access to Paladins.
Despite them already being established.
Established as a splinter group.
The High Elf Paladins are not a splinter group.
And your preference is misguided with incomplete information.
But you do you.
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Well I originally preferred Paladin and Shaman. Given the options of Druid and Shaman and Paladin.
But I changed my mind as other people pointed out NE could get Paladin instead, and I donāt see why theyād receive all 3.
I mean belves donāt have much room to argue when the two classes they donāt have are literally just Druid and Shammy. You even have DH, the most race exclusive class and very popular I might add class in the game.
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They?
As in the Alliance?
Because Night Elves are not High Elves and Night Elves donāt have Shamans.
There seems to be some unintentional conflation going on.
And overpowered but thatās neither here nor there.
Iām just bitter.
but look how dapper I look Iām my new tmog, give me praise everyone 
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